To get around that issue with your charge circuit you just need to connect a 
39ohm resistor in parallel with the charge warning led. That will approximate 
the resistance of the bulb (about 38ohms). You should then find that the 
alternator gets sufficient seed voltage to operate as it would with the bulb 
but 
will retain the functionality of the charge warning light.
 Mark Miles

Manager
Bar Square
8 Market Place
Wokingham
Berkshire
RG40 1AL

07522 67 60 57




________________________________
From: Jim Hearne <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wed, 29 June, 2011 16:13:07
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble


Agreed, i wouldn't leave it permanently  connected.
It would be better to connect it to an ignition  circuit if you have to.
 
I've always found that even without the warning  light connected there is 
enough 
residual magnetism in the alternator for it to  self excite about about 3000rpm 
and then work fine after that.
My 2+2 does that because i changed the warning  light to an LED but it's not 
really a problem.
 
Maybe not the case on a brand new alternator  though.
 
Jim
 
From: Mark Miles 
>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 4:05 PM
>To: [email protected] 
>Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
>
>Good point.. I would still use caution. Also leaving it connected when    the 
>alternator is not turning causes the coils to heat up as well as being a    
>constant drain on the battery. On a new alternator the heating is unlikely to  
>  
>do any damage but on a well used one it could accelerate    failure.
> Mark Miles
>
>Manager
>Bar Square
>8 Market    Place
>Wokingham
>Berkshire
>RG40 1AL
>
>
>07522 67 60    57
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________
 From: Jim Hearne    <[email protected]>
>To: [email protected]
>Sent: Wed, 29 June, 2011    15:40:12
>Subject: Re:    [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>
>
>I was worried about that as well    initially.
>But, the alternator must be outputting the    battery voltage on that pin when 
>it's running to put the alternator    warning light out.
>There can't be any volts dropped across the bulb    or the bulb would glow.
> 
>Jim
> 
>From: Mark Miles 
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2011 3:34 PM
>>To: [email protected] 
>>Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>>
>>
>>I would be a little concerned at connecting the alternator to the +side      
>>of 
>>the battery. The seed current for the alternator starts as 12v BUT the      
>>bulb 
>>acts as a resistor which drops the voltage to a much lower value. My      
>>concern would be damaging the exciter coils in the      alternator. 
>> Mark Miles
>>
>>Manager
>>Bar      Square
>>8 Market      Place
>>Wokingham
>>Berkshire
>>RG40 1AL
>>
>>
>>07522 67 60      57
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
________________________________
 From: barnacle      <[email protected]>
>>To: Quantum Owners Group      <[email protected]>
>>Sent: Wed, 29 June, 2011      8:30:43
>>Subject: [Quantum      Owners] Re: Alternator trouble
>>
>>Bit of a giveaway,      that...
>>
>>Apropos of which: a common complaint on our Fiat forum: "I've      replaced
>>the dash lights with LEDs and now it won't      charge..."
>>
>>Neil
>>
>>On Jun 28, 10:17 pm, Jim Hearne <[email protected]>      wrote:
>>> He did say the wire wasn't connected.......
>>>
>>>      Jim
>>
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