HI Jim Quick update, Adam was out in the Car last week, and when he got of the motorway, he ealised it was making a horrible noise........... aended up geting it recovered, and the upshot is that investigation has shown the timing belt tensioner has disintegrated. I've basically got the out and ineer, but no bearings! So the work to sort out the gearbox/diff/driveshat/suspension problems is on hold. Clearly I'm facing a strong possibility of bent valves, damaged pistons etc, so it may be that the engine and box come out, and I look into the other problems then. I'm going to start a different thread with an appeal for a MK3 tensioner - an to which cars/engines use the same one that you're aware of would be welcome as usual. Thanks StevieCee
On Oct 26, 5:33 pm, Jim Hearne <[email protected]> wrote: > Hmm, yes, it could all be connected if a mixture of Mk2 and Mk3 parts > have been used. > I didn't think the Mk3 outer joints fitted the Mk2 hubs but it's a long > time since i think i tried. > The Mk3 inner joints do fit and are a better design compared to the > Mk2's so are worth using. > The Mk3 driveshafts are slightly longer so could be bottoming out the > inner joint when the suspension is compressed. > They aren't a lot longer, maybe 10 or 15mm but it's enough. > It would be quite difficult to measure with the inner sliding joint, > especially when they are on the car. > I think you'd need to take the joints off the shaft so you can measure > it directly. > The best check is to remove the springs and refit everthing. > You can then lift the suspension up and down over it's full travel and > make sure nothing is binding or bottoming out. > > Jim > > On 26/10/2011 16:36, steve c wrote: > > > > > Hi Jim > > bought the car with the Zetec in, that part of the problem - don't > > know what's been changed and what hasn't. I've had to replace the hubs > > due to bearing failures, and bought 1 "recon" unit, and lready had one > > from another 2+2, these were Mk2. I've also had to change an outer CV > > joint (Drivers side outer - boot had split and joint was in a bad way) > > - the first CV joint supplied seemed correct, but I couldn't "draw it > > in" to the hub as the threaded stud seemed too short. I got in > > replaced, and was told the new one supplied was for the 1800i - I > > assumed MK3? > > Would I be able to measure the length of the drive shafts to check? > > The front suspension has been the major failure point on the car, and > > I wonder if a less than optimum solution of parts mix between the MK2 > > and MK3 has been used, and is causing the issues with wear and > > failure? > > Advice appreciated > > Thanks > > StevieCee > > > On Oct 26, 1:01 pm, "Jim Hearne"<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Did you change the driveshafts to the Mk3 ones when you fitted the Zetec ? > >> If so, that's probably the problem, the Mk3 shafts are longer. > > >> Jim > > >> -------------------------------------------------- > >> From: "steve c"<[email protected]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 12:58 PM > >> To: "Quantum Owners Group"<[email protected]> > >> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: More Parts. > > >>> Hi Jim > >>> Had a look through the docs, and couldn't find a photo of the Mk3 > >>> Fiesta with plates - but I think it was a H reg - the original XR2 > >>> donor was a D reg. I'm fairly certain the hubs and suspension are Mk2, > >>> and the driveshafts MK3 if this helps. > >>> Cheers > >>> Steviecee > >>> On Oct 24, 5:43 pm, steve c<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>> Hi Jim > >>>> I'll dig in the paperwork, I think there's a photo of the car that may > >>>> show the reg number. If I jack the car up and try the test would I be > >>>> able to see the inner ball joint moving and n ot transmiting drive to > >>>> the shaft? > >>>> Would it require resistance (in which case could I apply some breaking > >>>> force) > >>>> I never thought of it being driveshafts - don't have that problem with > >>>> rear wheel drive! > >>>> Thanks > >>>> Steve > >>>> On Oct 24, 1:36 pm, "Jim Hearne"<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> Hi Steve, > >>>>> The reversing problem could be a problem with a driveshaft joint rather > >>>>> than > >>>>> the gearbox. > >>>>> If you do it with the bonnet open (carefully) do you see the > >>>>> engine/gearbox > >>>>> trying to twist on it's mountings ? > >>>>> If so it's probably not the gearbox. > >>>>> The same IB5 gearbox was fitted to all the Mk3 Fiestas, and all the Mk5 > >>>>> Escorts apart from the diesels and 130ps 1.8 engines which had the > >>>>> bigger > >>>>> MTX75 gearbox. > >>>>> There were a few different ratios so i'd steer clear of the lower > >>>>> engine > >>>>> sizes. > >>>>> Do you know the age of the original donor for the 2+2 ? > >>>>> Jim > >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> From: "steve c"<[email protected]> > >>>>> Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011 12:44 PM > >>>>> To: "Quantum Owners Group"<[email protected]> > >>>>> Subject: [Quantum Owners] Re: More Parts. > >>>>>> Hi Jim > >>>>>> Probably isn't what I need, but it's a good starting point to ask > >>>>>> (you) for guidance. My son's 2+2 has been upgraded to a MK3 1.8i > >>>>>> Zetec > >>>>>> engine and box. The gearbox is giving some problems, it's always had > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> tendency to slip out of 3rd, but recently developed a much more > >>>>>> serious and strange problem. When reversing, it any degree of lock > >>>>>> above c.50% is applied the car doesn't move and the front judders > >>>>>> dramatically. > >>>>>> This leads me to believe the best way forward is to replace the Box > >>>>>> (and diff) as a unit. > >>>>>> So the question - what kind of gearbox do I need, and what cars would > >>>>>> ford have fitted it to? - Plus any advice that might help an old git > >>>>>> who only really understands cars with rear wheel drive and > >>>>>> carburettors. > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> StevieCee > >>>>>> On Oct 14, 4:55 pm, "Jim Hearne"<[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>>>> I've also got a Fiesta XR2 gearbox complete with brackets, mountings > >>>>>>> and > >>>>>>> cradle to get rid of. > >>>>>>> Again, anybody wanting it for a Quantum can have it FOC > >>>>>>> Though, i can't be certain that is is good (though i think it is) > >>>>>>> and if > >>>>>>> it's the early or late gearchange (these need to match the linkage) > >>>>>>> though i could figure it out if you need to know. > >>>>>>> If Andy/Eddie wants it for the Mk1's then they get first refusal. > >>>>>>> Also got several Mk2 Fiesta dash carcases to go, just the main > >>>>>>> section, > >>>>>>> not the extra bits ATM. > >>>>>>> Jim > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >>>>>> Groups > >>>>>> "Quantum Owners Group" group. > >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at > >>>>>>http://groups.google.com/group/quantumowners?hl=en > >>>>>> IMPORTANT NOTE: All information presented herewith is provided on an > >>>>>> "As > >>>>>> Is" basis, without warranty or the implication thereof. 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