It may be that the paint was ‘from supplier’ Girling, or similar, but they or 
Ford could have supplied another coating. They (manufacturers) component or 
vehicle, don’t expect the parts to still be in use after so many years ☹

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From: PAUL SLATER
Sent: 08 September 2022 17:19
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

At least they did put some paint on them which beats some of their products 
today.
But do agree would have been sensible for them to use a brake fluid resistant 
paint not the same stuff they have used for eternity.

The compbrake setup is IVA compliant as long as the bias bar is dealt with as 
per current IVA guidance once setup.
Current IVA guidance is any bias brake setup has to be welded once set and 
pinning or lock wire as used to be allowed is no longer.

(service brake control/ mechanical components) 09b in current IVA manual.

Removing the servo is the main advantage to the compbrake setup I don’t see it 
as a issue at all.
Insurance company were more than happy with the compbrake setup with no extra 
charge but were less enthusiastic other options.



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From: Jim Hearne
Sent: 08 September 2022 16:59
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems

The would be more servos around if Ford had thought to paint them with paint 
that was brake fluid proof.
 
The comp brake bias setup won’t pass a IVA test so don’t use it on a car that 
needs a IVA
And you do loose the servo.
 
Jim
 
 
From: 'Paul S Quantum' via Quantum Owners Group 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 4:52 PM
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems
 
We grew tired of the original servos failing. From the 5 failed servos here its 
always the big diaphragm that fails, well it is with the ones we have here. We 
did manage to patch a couple of them but the repair held but they failed 
quickly at a different point & of all the seals the big diaphragm is NLA.
Finding a good early Ka or Mondeo servo can be tricky with the good ones 
fetching silly money.
 
We went down the compbrake bias brake setup which is a bolt on conversion that 
replaces the original servo and master cylinder.
Not cheap mind but a permanent solution plus has the added advantage of cheap 
easy to get master cylinders and the ability to adjust the brake bias to 
exactly as you want it.
 
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From: 'Bill Allison' via Quantum Owners Group
Sent: 08 September 2022 14:08
To: quantumowners@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems
 
An extremely useful source of info on Mk1 and 2 Fiesta parts and substitutes 
and suppliers thereof is the Ford Fiesta MK1 / MK2 owners club
 
 
Bill 
 
On Thursday, 8 September 2022 at 12:19:50 BST, Jim Hearne <j...@quantums.info> 
wrote: 
 
 
There are 2 very different master cylinder, servo and transfer bar setups on 
the Mk2 Fiesta
1986 was the changeover year so we need to work out which setup you have.
Can you send a picture ?
 
Unfortunately parts for both setups are vary hard to find.
 
If you have the ability to fabricate parts then there are various upgrades that 
can be done to either KA or Mondeo master cylinders and servos.
I don’t know if there are any off the shelf conversion kits though.
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: John Hogg 
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 12:01 PM
To: Quantum Owners Group 
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Brake Servo Problems
 
Dear All 
 
I hope someone can help.  My recently purchased 2+2 has terrible brakes.  I 
have replaced or refurbished the brake calipers and the pads are good.  I 
purchased a replacement Servo but found it was very different to the original 
one fitted.  I have tried to fit the new servo but find it is different in 
every sense.
 
Can anyone direct me to, or supply me with, a working servo for a 1986 1600 CVH 
engined Fiesta or the part number for.
 
Failing a replacement - does anyone know what else it can be - the pressure 
required to get the brakes to work is as if there is no assistance from the 
servo.
 
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
 
Cheers  
 
John
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