Yes hid and led MUST have either levelling or leveling suspension and washers. But conversion of a halogen light unit is not allowed at bulb level. If say you have a light unit with non Fresnel patterned lenses and a complete projector type unit inside , changing that unit if done with correct pattern units is permitted.
It is the Fresnel on the lense and the reflector shape that screws up both hid and led conversion , the beam being disrupted. On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, 20:36 Mick L, <lawson.m...@hotmail.com> wrote: > As far as I'm aware they allow hid etc if they have washers and self > levelling? Correct my if I am wrong? > ------------------------------ > *From:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of Darren Siepka <dar...@siepka.me.uk> > *Sent:* 22 July 2023 18:38 > *To:* quantumowners@googlegroups.com <quantumowners@googlegroups.com> > *Subject:* Re: [Quantum Owners] Headlamp upgrades > > Yes my 2+2 head lights ( and flaps) have gone ! > I have created a mount with the new 90mm Hella unit and a small indicator( > also modular Hella but about 40mm dia) . > The 90mm unit is a bi-xenon , it has a single bulb with a flap to create > the dip cutoff pattern needed for mot. > Two additional items are also needed for xenon ( not sure about led), that > is headlamp washers and self levelling. > Hella sell universal kits to go with the 90mm products , but the washers > are easily and more cheaply done with a universal windscreen wash kit. > > Levelling is a little more tricky, the Hella kit uses ultrasonics , I am > using OEM lever arm sensors(BMW mini). I am making up a small driver module > that will read the inputs and adjust the std OEM headlight motors . I will > publish the build details including firmware as open source as I do all my > work on GitHub. > My friendly MOT man is going to let me use the beam aligner out of hours > to set it up and confirm all is well before the actual MOT test. But I need > to finish getting the car back on road before I can do that. > > Darren > > On Sat, 22 Jul 2023, 17:51 mgaskin via Quantum Owners Group, < > quantumowners@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > I’ve been doing some reading on the rules about headlights as for a long > time I’ve wanted to improve my 2+2’s headlights, which seem particularly > underwhelming after using my modern car. > > There’s a lot of conflicting guidance online, which seems to stem from > some changes to the MOT rules. So I started there, with the relevant part > seeming to be section 4.1.4: > https://www.gov.uk/guidance/mot-inspection-manual-for-private-passenger-and-light-commercial-vehicles/ > > > > If I’ve understood it correctly, replacing your halogen bulbs with HID or > LED equivalents is forbidden for any car used after 1st April 1986, and > will lead to an automatic failure (‘light source and lamp not > compatible’). But the part that’s of interest to me, the amended rule, > seems to state that there is NOT an automatic failure if you have replaced > the **entire** headlamp unit with an LED or HID alternative. I’m > presuming that they would need to be CE/UK CA marked, or given an E number > but, again, that aspect seems to generate conflicting answers – and > imported Japan-only or USA-only models seem to be able to pass MOTs just > fine without those markings from what I’ve read. > > > > There seem to be loads of possible replacement headlight units out there > so I was wondering firstly if I’ve understood all of this correctly (anyone > know a tame MOT tester?) and secondly if any of you have replaced your Q’s > entire original halogen units with an LED or HID alternative. 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