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Your observations and conclusion seem likely to me (however I don’t have an 
H4). Jim Hearne is the font of knowledge, as he has removed the body of an H4 
and repaired the chassis, if my memory serves me correctly. Would it be 
possible to (carefully) gain further knowledge by jacking the chassis and 
observing the result? Martin Scott
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Sent: 29 December 2024 11:30
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Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Rear brake hub

I've not seen anything on this group for a while, is it still functional?
Anyway, I think I have a problem with my H4's chassis. The passenger door is 
out of alignment and a section of the body kit just forward of it has separated 
from the original shell suggesting undue flex/strain.
My fear is that the chassis inside the body shell is bent which can only mean 
it has been weakened by corrosion and the stresses of lousy local roads have 
taken their toll.
Is that a reasonable conclusion? I'm hoping there is a less expensive/terminal 
explanation, but I cannot think of one.
If my fears are justified, what if anything can be done? Most of the vehicle is 
in good shape with a lot of work done. But I can't handle a chassis change, 
even if such is available.
Any thoughts appreciated.
Regards to all
Julian


On 2023-09-29 08:58, Jim Hearne wrote:
I checked on the Ford parts catalogue and on the Mk3 Fiesta there is no 
combined drum and hub shown, they are all separate.
But, on the Mk4/5 Fiesta and the KA there were some models with a combined drum 
and hub again.
These axles can be used on the Mk3 Fiesta as far as i know so that maybe where 
yours came from.
If you axle has a location for a ABS sensor then it's a later than Mk3 axle as 
the Mk3 didn't have ABS (only the funny mechanical system).
 
Jim
 
 
 
From: [email protected]
Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 7:46 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Quantum Owners] Rear brake hub
 
Hi
The wheel nuts go through the drum body and there are no other visible fixings. 
Outer drum and bearings are a solid unit which surprised me since any wear 
means the whole lot must be changed.
And yes, they are done up tight  ;-).
But it's just possible that at some point they were not tight enough and the 
inner bearing was able to rotate. What that means is that now, as the wheel 
spins the thrust on the bearing also rotates so it has a small (if finite) 
chance that the bearing can still move a bit. And of course it can be very 
slightly eccentric.
I can't see that it could be a Mk2 axle. The Mk3 bearing kits fit and the 
listings give different parts for Mk2 and Mk3.
I'd still like to replace it at some point - if possible. I assume this is 
another hen's teeth item.
Thanks

On 2023-09-28 19:33, Jim Hearne wrote:
I'm pretty sure all the rear drums on the Mk3 Fiesta had separate drums and 
hubs, none were combined like the Mk2 Fiesta, are you sure the drum wasn't just 
stuck to the hub ?
 
Also, when you do the rear hub nut up (It's really tight) then it will clamp 
all the inner bearings together between the nut, the bearing inners and the 
rear of the spindle, there is no way for the inners to spin on the spindle 
unless the hub nut was loose.
So, it doesn't surprise me if you could remove the inner bearings by hand or if 
there was slight play.
 
Jim
 
 
From: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 7:08 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [Quantum Owners] Rear brake hub
 
Hi
I've just replaced the bearings in the rear nearside hub on an H4 (Fiesta Mk3) 
and found that the inner bearing housing has been worn so that I was able to 
turn the whole bearing insert by hand before pushing it out. The section where 
it is set is larger diameter than the rest of the tube through which the shell 
has to be pushed into place. The new bearing is better than the old, but there 
is still a problem.
I cannot find anywhere that supplies replacement Fiesta 3 hubs. There are items 
listed but these do not include the brake drums - mine are integrated.
Does anyone know where a suitable spare may be found, or what else can be done?
Thanks
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