Hi

When weather allows, I will investigate. But what can I jack and observe? The suspected failure is, I understand, factory bonded inside the body and is both invisible and inaccessible.

Many thanks

Julian

On 2025-01-05 20:19, susanandmartin wrote:

A few of us still resist the pull of Facebook 😊

Your observations and conclusion seem likely to me (however I don't have an H4). Jim Hearne is the font of knowledge, as he has removed the body of an H4 and repaired the chassis, if my memory serves me correctly. Would it be possible to (carefully) gain further knowledge by jacking the chassis and observing the result? Martin Scott

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I've not seen anything on this group for a while, is it still functional?

Anyway, I think I have a problem with my H4's chassis. The passenger door is out of alignment and a section of the body kit just forward of it has separated from the original shell suggesting undue flex/strain.

My fear is that the chassis inside the body shell is bent which can only mean it has been weakened by corrosion and the stresses of lousy local roads have taken their toll.

Is that a reasonable conclusion? I'm hoping there is a less expensive/terminal explanation, but I cannot think of one.

If my fears are justified, what if anything can be done? Most of the vehicle is in good shape with a lot of work done. But I can't handle a chassis change, even if such is available.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Regards to all

Julian

On 2023-09-29 08:58, Jim Hearne wrote:

I checked on the Ford parts catalogue and on the Mk3 Fiesta there is no combined drum and hub shown, they are all separate.

But, on the Mk4/5 Fiesta and the KA there were some models with a combined drum and hub again.

These axles can be used on the Mk3 Fiesta as far as i know so that maybe where yours came from.

If you axle has a location for a ABS sensor then it's a later than Mk3 axle as the Mk3 didn't have ABS (only the funny mechanical system).

Jim

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Hi

The wheel nuts go through the drum body and there are no other visible fixings. Outer drum and bearings are a solid unit which surprised me since any wear means the whole lot must be changed.

And yes, they are done up tight  ;-).

But it's just possible that at some point they were not tight enough and the inner bearing was able to rotate. What that means is that now, as the wheel spins the thrust on the bearing also rotates so it has a small (if finite) chance that the bearing can still move a bit. And of course it can be very slightly eccentric.

I can't see that it could be a Mk2 axle. The Mk3 bearing kits fit and the listings give different parts for Mk2 and Mk3.

I'd still like to replace it at some point - if possible. I assume this is another hen's teeth item.

Thanks

On 2023-09-28 19:33, Jim Hearne wrote:

I'm pretty sure all the rear drums on the Mk3 Fiesta had separate drums and hubs, none were combined like the Mk2 Fiesta, are you sure the drum wasn't just stuck to the hub ?

Also, when you do the rear hub nut up (It's really tight) then it will clamp all the inner bearings together between the nut, the bearing inners and the rear of the spindle, there is no way for the inners to spin on the spindle unless the hub nut was loose.

So, it doesn't surprise me if you could remove the inner bearings by hand or if there was slight play.

Jim

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Subject: [Quantum Owners] Rear brake hub

Hi

I've just replaced the bearings in the rear nearside hub on an H4 (Fiesta Mk3) and found that the inner bearing housing has been worn so that I was able to turn the whole bearing insert by hand before pushing it out. The section where it is set is larger diameter than the rest of the tube through which the shell has to be pushed into place. The new bearing is better than the old, but there is still a problem.

I cannot find anywhere that supplies replacement Fiesta 3 hubs. There are items listed but these do not include the brake drums - mine are integrated.

Does anyone know where a suitable spare may be found, or what else can be done?

Thanks

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