Don't be juveniles (unless you're 12 years old, in which case I apologize ;). 

Do you think it's easy having their job? Try to be constructive and determine 
how best to move forward if this is true. What workarounds would be available, 
etc. 

I personally use quartz all the time for prototyping, and will continue to do 
so on hardware and software that will be around for a few more years. If any of 
my projects have merit, then the QC output will be a blueprint for a more 
universal development. 

.m

On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:53 PM, masahiro kahata <mkah...@me.com> wrote:

> joshua
> 
> <<I suggest we fire the developer relations team.>>
> 
> i think so too.
> 
> 
> Apple work with Xerox : Star computer to develop LISA and Mac, in 1980
> then Apple cut smalltalk-80, from Star OS to make LISA and Mac.
> 
> for me, QC like smalltalk-80 is really just go back to basic idea of new 
> human computer interface, like Star + smalltalk.
> smalltalk-80 is part of OS.
> QC is part of OS.
> mean need to care of development  of QC.
> 
> in case Apple doesn't care QC then it is really big problem.
> Star is much nice computer, : 
> 
> 
> masahiro
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:19 PM, joshua Sophrin <jos...@joshuasophrin.com> wrote:
> 
>> I suggest we fire the developer relations team. They have failed in their 
>> mission to adequately communicate to the community and are upsetting many 
>> people. Furthermore, statements of deprecation should only be officially 
>> announced not on a back channel. 
>> 
>> Joshua De Salis Sophrin
>> www.sophrin.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:10 PM, masahiro kahata <mkah...@me.com> wrote:
>>> ben
>>> 
>>> do you have any idea to contact Apple for this ?
>>> 
>>> i start use Apple  LISA computer from 1983, 30 years ago.
>>> Apple's situation change a lot.
>>> QC is one of most big problem for me, included  it is not work for iOS, and 
>>> QT player for windows.
>>> 
>>> Apple need to use money for this kind of development, like they did before.
>>> not just use for making nice new building.
>>> masahiro
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ben Balser <b...@bbalser.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> > It is all over online.  Even the Wikipedia page has now been updated to 
>>> > show QC is "dead".
>>> >
>>> > My question, the original message violated someone's NDA with Apple.  
>>> > That's a pretty serious thing to do.  Why would Apple have beta testers 
>>> > for something that is deprecated already?
>>> >
>>> > We will only know if it is true or not with an official statement from 
>>> > Apple.  The longer they take, the more folks will lose faith. Just like 
>>> > the bad FCP X introduction.  I see a similar mess happening all over 
>>> > again.
>>> >
>>> > So, true or not?  Simple question to be answered, shouldn't take a long 
>>> > time to do.
>>> >
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