The workarounds for me are processing, openframeworks, pd etc. I'm fed up with 
having my ability to work be subject to a corporation with interests that no 
longer seem to match my own. I bought a thinkpad last month, installed Ubuntu 
Studio and I'm able to do everything I would normally do in QC, without feeling 
like I'm trapped in an OS that said corporation is constantly trying to merge 
with iOS. I already have an iPad, thank you.

May Apple have mercy on (y)our souls.


On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:14 PM, Michael Neuman <michaelneu...@eleveninc.com> wrote:

> Don't be juveniles (unless you're 12 years old, in which case I apologize ;). 
> 
> Do you think it's easy having their job? Try to be constructive and determine 
> how best to move forward if this is true. What workarounds would be 
> available, etc. 
> 
> I personally use quartz all the time for prototyping, and will continue to do 
> so on hardware and software that will be around for a few more years. If any 
> of my projects have merit, then the QC output will be a blueprint for a more 
> universal development. 
> 
> .m
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:53 PM, masahiro kahata <mkah...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> joshua
>> 
>> <<I suggest we fire the developer relations team.>>
>> 
>> i think so too.
>> 
>> 
>> Apple work with Xerox : Star computer to develop LISA and Mac, in 1980
>> then Apple cut smalltalk-80, from Star OS to make LISA and Mac.
>> 
>> for me, QC like smalltalk-80 is really just go back to basic idea of new 
>> human computer interface, like Star + smalltalk.
>> smalltalk-80 is part of OS.
>> QC is part of OS.
>> mean need to care of development  of QC.
>> 
>> in case Apple doesn't care QC then it is really big problem.
>> Star is much nice computer, : 
>> 
>> 
>> masahiro
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 5:19 PM, joshua Sophrin <jos...@joshuasophrin.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I suggest we fire the developer relations team. They have failed in their 
>>> mission to adequately communicate to the community and are upsetting many 
>>> people. Furthermore, statements of deprecation should only be officially 
>>> announced not on a back channel. 
>>> 
>>> Joshua De Salis Sophrin
>>> www.sophrin.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 8:10 PM, masahiro kahata <mkah...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> ben
>>>> 
>>>> do you have any idea to contact Apple for this ?
>>>> 
>>>> i start use Apple  LISA computer from 1983, 30 years ago.
>>>> Apple's situation change a lot.
>>>> QC is one of most big problem for me, included  it is not work for iOS, 
>>>> and QT player for windows.
>>>> 
>>>> Apple need to use money for this kind of development, like they did before.
>>>> not just use for making nice new building.
>>>> masahiro
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Ben Balser <b...@bbalser.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > It is all over online.  Even the Wikipedia page has now been updated to 
>>>> > show QC is "dead".
>>>> >
>>>> > My question, the original message violated someone's NDA with Apple.  
>>>> > That's a pretty serious thing to do.  Why would Apple have beta testers 
>>>> > for something that is deprecated already?
>>>> >
>>>> > We will only know if it is true or not with an official statement from 
>>>> > Apple.  The longer they take, the more folks will lose faith. Just like 
>>>> > the bad FCP X introduction.  I see a similar mess happening all over 
>>>> > again.
>>>> >
>>>> > So, true or not?  Simple question to be answered, shouldn't take a long 
>>>> > time to do.
>>>> >
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