> 
>     Here are some things these users DONT want to do:
>     Start a qube
>     Stop a qube
>     Start a disposableVM
>     Look in the manager to see if there are updates.

at least a bit of the inner working must be known: disp vm is useful and
you have to stop a qube that you don't use to free some resources.
updates could be made automatic (or manual if a usere prefear this).

>     Here are some of the things they want to do:
>     Read their emails.
>     Go online in a secure way.
>     Browse without risking their emails/bank accounts
>     Open a web browser that wont keep history/cant compromise their private
>     stuff.
>     Look at pictures from phones/ downloads as safely as possible.
>     Keep their system updated.

I always used windows, and i find it easy to use:
just two buttons (mouse) + is all gui.
from long time i started using virtual box to open untrusted exe (any
exe) to increase my security and when i learnt about qubes i have found
it as a natural extension of what i was already doing.

i have found the qubes manager quite similar to the virtual box window
used to start, stop and edit vm settings and both were VERY nice and
EASEY to use.

i have not yet tested qubes 4 because i'm waiting for the definitive
version and because if vt-d and slat become mandatory i don't have them
so qubes will not run (on my pc i have only vt-x).

as a user i don't care in which language is written the manager, if it
is a single big app or small with plugins, i also understand that for a
developer it makes a huge difference.

i hope that a new manager will be written; or something where you can
find the state of the whole system without using the terminal.

i CAN use linux but i DON'T want to use it, i find gui much easier and
faster to use and to learn.
please don't force users to use a terminal, it is not going to work
https://www.xkcd.com/1168/

from qubes manager you could rightclick, open settings and just by
looking and clicking tabs you could see all the possible settings, for
example you could see that a setting " ammount of ram" existed and what
was its value.
how am i supposed to discover that such setting exists using a terminal?

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