On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 11:33:48AM -0800, Kyle Rankin wrote: > > > Also, i wasnt able to find a statement of Purism about the fact that, in > > the beginning, they claimed the ME was "completely disabled and removed". I > > mean, that was obviously not true right? > > I can only comment on the current state of things and what we have tried to > be open about on our site. I don't recall them using words like > "completely" but I also wasn't working there at the time. >
I find this somewhat disingenuous. Original claims: "This is the first laptop to be manufactured where there is no mystery software. This means that there are absolutely no proprietary drivers in the linux kernel, no Linux kernel binary blobs, and no proprietary software applications required to operate this computer." Later: "We promise that a Purism system and all its components will be free according to the strictest of guidelines set forth by the FSF's Free Software Definition." By 2016, the company had (under pressure) rolled back on these claims, and acknowledged that the BIOS and Intel Binaries required binary blobs. The "completely" claim is in the October19 2017 post - "Purism Librem Laptops Completely Disable Intel's Management Engine" I think that what bothers people is that the early claims were either false or misleading. I had concerns about the whole "Qubes endorsed" debacle. I believe issues like these raise questions about the probity of the company, unman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "qubes-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/qubes-users/20181111024616.jdigceo4sob5pdn4%40thirdeyesecurity.org. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
