January 6, 2020 8:20 PM, "Chris Laprise" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 1/5/20 11:30 PM, Claudia wrote:
> 
>> I don't know much about PSP, or ME for that matter, but it seems to me 
>> you're mostly screwed either
>> way, so I figured I might as well save some money while I'm at it. This was 
>> even before the recent
>> Intel shit show.
> 
> Indeed. These management engines are ubiquitous, so I think we should
> try to answer the question: Can they be properly deactivated?
> 
> Given everything else, its possible the answer is 'no' for Intel (we
> already know this) and 'yes' for AMD.
> 
>> Plus, I got a really good deal on this particular machine (so admittedly a 
>> bit of an impulse buy).
>> And I have to say, despite a lot of troubleshooting and a few remaining 
>> glitches, it actually runs
>> Qubes surprisingly well, all things considered. But... yeah, kids, don't try 
>> this at home.
> 
> I tend to shy away from 'consumer' models, bc they almost always
> misconfigure advanced features like the IOMMU as the firmware isn't
> carefully managed. Dell describes Inspiron models as "Home and Home Office".

On top of that, though, IOMMU problems and ACPI bugs and such appear to be 
widespread in the Ryzen family, across different computer makes and models, 
including higher-end ones and motherboards. I think there are some links about 
it in some of my other threads. That's what makes me think Ryzen itself has 
some problems of its own, or at least certain generations or something. Bad 
firmware can break good hardware, but good firmware can't fix bad hardware. 
Other AMD product lines though like Threadripper for example don't seem to be 
any worse than Intel from what I've heard. But like I said, it's really not 
that bad, all things considered -- I now have fully working suspend/resume 
which is more than a lot of Qubes users can say.

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