I go along with what you say there Gil. It probably didn't come out how I meant it. Its just that I prefer backing front or handy runners and if Noel Harris is on, there's a higher chance it will get back in the running. Thus, in my opinion, although not extinguishing, lessening the chances of the horse winning. Its just a statistical thing. A horse has statistically a higher chance of winning if it is handy or in front on the turn. Noel Harris statistically rides proportionately more horses at the back. But if I owned a horse that could only race from the back, I'd put him on. But as a punter I am less inclined to want him on my horse because there is a greater chance it will be ridden at the back. Peter.
Gilbert Dymock wrote: > > Peter > > You might be a trifle unfair to Noel Harris. Over the years he has won a > number of races by coming with the last run . . . a situation which > compounds itself as trainers with horses which lack early speed tend to seek > him out (I'd have loved to have seen Harris on Gee I Jane yesterday). He > probably rides a higher proportion of this type of horse than any other > jockey. A generation ago (maybe more now that I think of it), Bill Skelton > got the nickname "Bustling Bill" because of his liking for taking the lead > early. He also had a pretty busy style of riding. Any trainer with a front > runner, or a horse they thought should be tried as one, wanted to put Bill > on. And there was a South Island jockey, Arthur Eastwood I think, who was > known as "the fullback" because he'd wait at the rear, a la Harris. > > I've only had one quick look at Saturday's fields, but I see Rokocoko is in > and I expect Harris to have this horse in the first half dozen throughout. > > My take on positioning a horse is that it should be dictated by the tempo of > the race. The idea is to arrive at the home turn in the best position to > mount and sustain a challenge in the run to the post. In a slowly run race, > out in front is best; in an evenly run race, camped on the leader is best; > in a rapidly run race, out the back and getting into the clear is best. > Unfortunately, not every horse is going to have the race run to suit its own > preferred tempo . . . but that's racing. > > Gil > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Harrop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [racebase] Virtual Super 12 > > > > > Hi Muz, > > Gee, you have a long memory. > > The biggest single factor in determining the winner is luck in the > > running. > > As a punter it is therefore advantageous to make luck as small a factor as > > possible. I like Hayden because more often than not he has his horses > > handy > > on the turn and in a challenging position to win. This is opposed to > > someone > > like Noel Harris, who generally rides back and therefore sometimes his > > horses don't win even though they may be by far the best horse in the > > race. > > There is more luck involved with backing horses ridden by Noel Harris. > > People also laughed when I suggested a couple of years ago that the stats > > of > > Allan Peard suggested he was a good jockey. > > Peter. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/racebase/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
