Hi Chris,

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> On Nov 18, 2016, at 16:41, Chris Hahn <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Good analysis and distinction between personal and social values; as well as, 
> ideological purity vs. actual morality.  The problem with "we need to start 
> over" is that it is going to take at least 4 years to clear horrible personal 
> values and morality from the White House.  From a personal values and 
> morality perspective, I am embarrassed for our country.  And yes, this 
> includes the choice we had as a Democratic candidate.

To me, this is a bit like being embarrassed that the family skeleton is out of 
the closet. The problems were there all along, but we pretended they didn't 
matter until they became public. 

The real shame is that we have become so morally inept as a church. Trump (and 
Hilary) be God's judgement on us. Let's find a way to repent quickly, lest God 
give us something worse in 2020...

E

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