With my employer hat on, I'd thoroughly recommend banging out a few Rails apps, deploying them, and experience life as a Rails developer on a few small projects, and then look for a job. As Mike/DHH suggest, this should negative any "Junior" references. You won't be an expert rails developer, but Rails-land needs lots of developers from different domains so you're potentially more valuable than someone who knows all the different plugins/gems. Plus, Rails is just one layer of the entire web stack that we use, with JavaScript/CSS/HTML above it, and Unix/web servers/load balancers/databases/etc below it. Being an expert at all of that sounds difficult.
Nic On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:06 PM, Mike Bailey <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Joshua, > > *I think David Heinemeier Hansson* answers this well in this blog post. > > - Mike > > "Peopleware <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0932633439> quotes a > study that six months seemed to be the cut-off point for programmers. Once > they had six months under their belt, the platform knowledge was no longer > the bottleneck in their abilities. > > That sounds about right to me. That’s how I felt it going to Ruby. In the > beginning, I would constantly be looking things up. Trying to internalize > the idioms and not merely convert previous patterns to new syntax. But after > about six months of exposure, I knew where things were. What tools to reach > for. Yes, I kept on learning (and still do), but the difference between now > and then is not all that dramatic." > > - http://37signals.com/svn/posts/833-years-of-irrelevance > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:46 PM, Joshua Partogi <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> >> Hi all, >> >> I haven't been in the situation like this before. But is it true if >> for example you have 20 years experience as COBOL programmer, and then >> when you switch career to (for example) Rails, you will be considered >> as Junior Rails programmer and your salary will drop and be equalled >> to Junior programmer? Does your experience as programmer (eventhough >> as COBOL) are not considered? Has anyone found this case before? The >> reason I ask is I might need to reconsider to switch career to Rails >> world if this is the case when I will be dealing with HR. >> >> Thanks for the insights. >> >> -- >> Certified Scrum Master >> http://blog.scrum8.com | http://jobs.scrum8.com | >> http://twitter.com/scrum8 >> >> >> > > > > -- Dr Nic Williams Mocra - Premier iPhone and Ruby on Rails Consultants w - http://mocra.com twitter - @drnic skype - nicwilliams e - [email protected] p - +61 412 002 126 or +61 7 3102 3237 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby or Rails Oceania" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rails-oceania?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
