+1 for Ruby, Java + .Net runtime solutions, this is a major reason I really enjoy being a Ruby programmer... options... (.Net still needs some work from what I can tell, but it's getting there). I'm certainly not doing every job on a different runtime, but at least I've got the option too if the need presents itself.
Cam On 22/01/2010, at 12:54 PM, Anders Østergaard Jensen wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Cameron Barrie <[email protected]> > wrote: > I'd also be really happy to work on something in this space. It's been > banging around in my head for a while(amongst all the other crap in there). > I think starting with something small with a good plugin architecture is > paramount. I'd even consider not using Rails, but other Ruby frameworks if > they suited those needs better(thoughts?). > > > Excellent idea to discuss. I have been working with a variety of different > CMS'es (though not Ruby CMS'es), and I always see each CMS as being a > trade-off of some kind. It would be nice to be able to start from scratch > with an extensible, sufficient, scalable architecture with a reasonably clean > design that does not make it a PITA to extend afterwards. > > I see these as the biggest hindrances towards the perfect CMS: > - Extensibility > - Runtime platform (Java? Ruby? .NET?) and database support (of course if > made with Rails, this is managed through ActiveRecord) > - Templating and web page designs > - Language support (UTF-8?) and multiple languages/currencies > - Administration system/backend -- the art of creating a backend that does > not require an engineering degree to operate whilst still preserving > extensibility and an open tech platform for developers. > > I would be happy to contribute towards such a discussion, also in terms of > code if anyone if in for it. > > Anders > > > Cam > > > > On 22/01/2010, at 12:37 PM, Daryl Manning wrote: > >> Well, I know everyon once in a while I get a hankering to work on a blogging >> project to replace wordpress. Same sort of goals: dead easy install, good >> theming, plugin architecture, fast, efficient, troublefree (in fact, one >> thing that's quite started to annoy me lately is the number of times I've >> had to upgrade wordpress of late even with cap deploy and git). Opinionated, >> but practical (all respect to other blog developers like Xavier and folks >> too who have done some great work). I know xml-rpc posting is one of my big >> needs since I rarely log into the things myself. >> >> anyhow, if anyone was cool with that, I'd be happy to work on it - just >> seems like a lot ot take on on my own. >> >> ciao ! >> Daryl. >> >> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:14 PM, Nicholas Faiz <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> I recently tried to work on a project which really required wordpress >> or drupal - it needed decent CMSing *and* blogging - and I don't touch >> PHP (not out of disdain or anything, I've just never really used it, >> and don't want to support it commercially). I ended up moving toward >> enki, which handles blogging well and page management simply. >> >> Mephisto used to be quite good, but the Liquid templating layer was >> irksome. >> >> I've tried to sit through one of those Refinery CMS videos but they >> aren't very useful for questioning how the app can be extended and >> seem to contain predictable ideas. I'm dubious about CMS' created by >> design houses, as they often only cater to 'brochure sites' which are >> good with theming but don't create content platforms/services which >> are easy to extend using the framework. >> >> BCMS gets the brochure site approach right, and the UI is versatile, >> except its extensibility is an issue, I think (one of my current >> projects has extended it). They have a focussed team and it might well >> overcome these issues with time. >> >> The entire CMS gap is a bit annoying. I've been involved in a lot of >> CMS work over the last two years, and would be happy to have a hack >> session in a Melbourne pub one weekend afternoon if anyone wanted to >> have a go at doing something better, if only to share some ideas about >> what a good CMS would do on the Rails platform. >> >> adva_cms - http://github.com/svenfuchs/adva_cms/ - coming out of >> Germany was looking excellent for a little while, but I think the code >> may be overly complex. >> >> Cheers, >> Nicholas >> >> On Jan 22, 11:35 am, Daryl Manning <[email protected]> wrote: >> > I'd also say the same is true of a wordpress competitor though. I know it >> > irks me sometimes I still use wordpress even though I truly prefer running >> > an extending Rails app (let's face it, the wordpress eco system of plugins >> > is freaking amazing - much liek Drupal actually). >> > >> > ciao ! >> > Daryl >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 10:40 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> >> > wrote: >> > > I tried Radiant CMS a while ago. I actually found it pretty buggy and >> > > slow. After looking at the code base, it was pretty clunky. Some of >> > > the administration sections were pretty badly designed as well. I >> > > tried explaining the Admin to some non techies, but they struggled. I >> > > didn't mean for that to turn into a Radiant bash, but thats just my >> > > experience. It may have changed since then (I played with it about 6 >> > > months ago). It almost made me write my own. 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