I appreciate the input.  But I must have missed something about the Royal Rangers Database.  Where do I find it?  I can't find anything in the postings still on my computer that tells me. 
 
Thanks
 
In His Grip,
 
DJ
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Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 4:40 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] Questions

I ran into this very situation and see it quite often.  Almost without exception you won't go any higher than your vision is.  
 
If your vision is Royal Rangers where on Wed. night you have a structured meeting plan, advancements being worked on, devotions, group presentations, pledges, and uniform inspections then share your vision with your Sr. Commander.  It takes a lot of work to maintain even these basics. 
 
Start with getting your boys in uniform. They can afford it.  You just need to make them see the need for it.
Start with your own outpost.  Get you and your Lt. Commanders in uniform.  Start with a walmart 20.00 dart pistol and some balloons and candy and a prize.  Items don't have to be expensive perhaps a 4.00 pocket knife.  The boys with uniforms get to shoot the gun.  Start with one step.  Send home a note to the parents that a khaki shirt is required and if they are so destitute they can't afford it go to some of the people in the church and ask them if they could spare a 20.00 for a RR shirt and patches. 
 
Quick way to make several hundred dollars in our church of 400 is to have a baked potato feed by donation.  Let it be known you are working for the boys to get in uniform.  Sunday night after the service.
 
When I first started I had the same story as you have. I  worked at it from the bottom up until one day the Sr. commander jumped one of the first boys I had in complete Khaki uniform and asked him why he was wearing that uniform...it was all could do to nicely walk up to him and tell him that in two weeks I would be attending the prayer group and started making Royal Rangers a matter of prayer in every aspect of our prayer life at church.  After a few months the phone rang and "we want to talk to you about your feeling on Royal Rangers".  At that time we talked and I shared my vision and in a few weeks I had the Sr. Commanders position.  I tried it from the bottom up and got very discouraged.  When it came from the top down it was a blessing.  A pastors support, not neccessarly evolvement but support, is a vital part of a healthy outpost.
 
Pray for God to move your vision into action.  Sometimes the worst thing for a outpost is a old rut.  If you have to back that feller up and try for a new rut that takes a new path through the mud then so be it.  Just because they have always done something that way doesn't mean it is the only way to do it.  Keep on them but let God do the moving. 
 
Download the Ranger Database and start using it to track your boys send home already made up letters about donations...etc.  Lots of stuff to help you out.
 
Hope this helps!
 
Mark Jones
 
 
On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 13:17:41 -0800 "David E. Franks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
I believe the best way is to get your Sr Commander and other Commanders into NTC.  It won't hurt to go your self.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DJ Holland
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 6:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RR] Questions

I tried to send this last night, but nothing happened.  If we get two of these, read this first, there's a few additions from the other one.  If you don't get the other one, ignore this first paragraph!  ;-)
 
O.K.  In my first post introducing myself I said I had some questions.  So I think what I'll do is ask a few, read, digest & process the info.  Then, if necessary, do it again.

As a way of leading into the first question(s) I think I should give a little background about our outpost.

Once upon a time . . . . Way back when, we had a very active outpost.  Now mind you, this was before I moved here and joined the church.  My wife, who grew up in this church, tells  me there were a few GMA recipients.  Not to downplay this, but all the recipients were sons of commanders.  Our Sr. Commander's son was the most recent, about 3 or 4 years ago.  Since then, there has been a lot of Rangers talk by commanders, but little visible activity - from either them or the boys.

At this time, I am cmdr. of Pioneers/Discovery Rangers (I am already looking to the new program for help and ideas).  There are about 5 boys who attend regularly, sometimes as many as 12.  I know I have enough boys for one regular patrol and possibly one irregular one.  However, out of 5 boys, 1 comes because his nephew comes for SA, one comes because his parents work with the youth group at the same time.  He and another boy (my patrol guide) are only killing time until they go into Youth next year.  My patrol guide has a uniform, but doesn't wear it and only 2 of the others will wear a Rangers T-shirt.
 
Some of the kids just can't afford a Class B uniform, and I would like to find a way to get them one.  All I get from my Sr. Commander is "First we have to see how much money we have in the account."  I get the same line when I talk about ordering the God and Me program for the boys.  I'm trying not to want a lot of stuff until we change over to the new program, but the God and Me will, I think, stay the same under the new program.  So I want to start on that.  My thought is:  if we have the money - spend it (on the boys!), if we don't have it, raise it.  But I just can't seem to get firm support from my Sr. Commander.  When I've talked to my pastor *very supportive of Rangers* he tells me I need to work with my Sr. Commander, as that is the chain of command.  The Sr. Commander is not necessarily tight with money, in fact in Sept. all the boys who ordered a long sleeved T-shirt got a free short sleeved one paid for from outpost funds.  But only 3 or 4 did.
 
Also, I have recently gotten my own Class B uniform (The Holy Spirit has moved on me to be involved in Rangers properly or to get out, and He won't release me to get out!  I love the Lord's sense of humor.)  When I wear my uniform, every Wednesday night, the long time commanders (who don't wear their uniforms) feel the need to tease me for wearing mine.  Attitude says a lot.

Now my question is this:  how can I, with lackadaisical (sp?) Sr. & other commanders and unmotivated & disinterested boys create an environment to inspire a transformation within our Pioneers/Discovery Rangers group?  How do I change this from a babysitting service to a true Royal Ranger Outpost to live up to our charter?  How do I motivate the boys to want to wear uniforms or T-shirts?  How can I impact the other commanders of the magnitude of responsibility God has placed on our shoulders?  How do I weasel funds from our Sr. Commander for materials, uniforms and other necessities for the boys?
 
I have not yet been through LTC, but will be attending the first possible session when the new LTC is released.  I'm hoping to get some more ideas there, but for now I turn to you, my fellow commanders and ministers of the Gospel to tomorrow's men and commanders.
 
God has given me a burden, but this situation sometimes overwhelms me and I find myself (once again) crying out to Him who sits on the Throne.

I know this message is long - like my first one, but I promise they will get shorter!

In His Grip,

DJ
 

Mark Jones, Ozark MO, [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Download a Free Royal Ranger Database visit my website at: http://home1.gte.net/mjones02/index.html

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