We in Russian RR usually do not make separate camps for b&g. Boys and girls usually just live in separate tents. OR sometimes we make kind of villages, only for this camp. Then it could be girlish village, and boyish village.
Anyway, I think if they are in different tents, it's enough. And after severel years of this system your boys and girls (if they are properly supervised by adults) will get used to that system. And will not really care about it or feel anything special about it. That "oh boy, girls' tent right beside here!!" Now, what are you going to say if I tell you that there are some countries, where RR boys & girls live in the same tent. :-))) Of course when girls need to change, all boys are out. And there is always adults' supervision. Ok I don't want to scare you too much guys :-))) RR is courageous :) Boris Chikota ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonathan Trower" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2002 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [RR] Just a short word > At 11:25 AM 4/18/2002 -0500, Mark W Jones wrote: > >Jonathan: > >They do camp together. The females have female leaders. But they do > >attend the same functions camp in the same outposts etc. 1 tent away you > >have a female patrol. > > "1 tent away" or in a totally separate area of the campground? I'd like to > hear more from our German or Australian commanders about how they separate > the genders on camps. Obviously, they have separated the genders, so that > males lead males and females lead females. So given the lack of girls in > our camps because of the separation between Royal Rangers and Missionettes > (see my comments below on this topic), the only reason a lady would be > going on a camp-out in the States is to lead boys, which is contrary to the > example provided by the Germans. > > >With God's help we can over come our passions to > >steal, kill, mam, hurt, attack the list goes on. Last year we did the > >same thing here in Springfield MO at the last BSTC/RKTC the females had > >their own cabin but participated equally in all the activities as > >patrols. > > Absolutely, at RKTC men and women are both welcome to attend and > participate fully. But those conferences are only held in areas where > adequate, totally separate facilities are provided for both the men and the > women. We did the same thing with NULC . . . it was not a camp setting, and > separate facilities were provided for both. The first NULC we held we could > not provide the separate facilities, so we had to restrict that conference > to men only. After that we insisted on facilities that could provide the > facilities and privacy needed for both. > > > >The fact of the matter is they interact, work together, play together, > >serve together as is God's plan. Yes we need to adhere to moral and > >privacy laws just as we do any any other aspect of life. > > > >One thing Youth has over Rangers is female interaction. That is the only > >thing our 12 year olds leave rangers for. We have a great program and > >ministry. We are just leaving out 50% of those that will be with us in > >heaven. Might as well get used to it down here. I would rather train up > >a child in the way he/she should go then to have them all hang'n out > >being cool listening to loud music and attending so called "Christian" > >rock concerts. To me we are shooting ourselves in the foot on this > >issue. > > Now you're introducing a different issue into the discussion! Girls in > Rangers. That issue was floated as a trial balloon a couple years ago by > someone higher up at headquarters than Rangers, and it was very quickly > shot down by Thomas Trask himself (based on a flood of comments he received > from the field). He said that Royal Rangers will continue to be for the > boys, and Missionettes will continue to be for the girls. If you want that > one changed, forget about RangerNet, or the national executive committee. > You and your pastor will have to work on Thomas Trask to bring about a > change like that. > > Jonathan > > > >Mark Jones > > > > > >On Thu, 18 Apr 2002 08:58:12 -0500 Jonathan Trower > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > At 12:41 PM 4/18/2002 +0200, Stefan Fischer wrote: > > > >Hi Bjoern, > > > > > > > >Great to have more (active) Germans here (besides Guenther and > > > me)... > > > > > > > > > A Man is a leader of a boys team and a women is a leader of a > > > girls team. > > > > > > > >This is a point we Europeans seem to forget in THIS discussion. At > > > the > > > >moment we are just discussing the 'female commanders' issue, not > > > the general > > > >'girls in RR' issue. > > > > > > > >There is NO difference in that point between the US and Germany. > > > Females are > > > >NOT allowed to be commanders in male patrols of the older age > > > groups > > > >(Pioneers, Trailblazers and Trailrangers), here in Germany just as > > > in the > > > >US. The > > > >only difference is: we have female patrols and they don't have > > > girls... It's > > > >only due to THAT fact, European women can have the training for > > > older age > > > >groups and US women can't. > > > > > > Excellent point! Same is true in Australia, as I understand it. > > > Women camp > > > with girls, men camp with boys. Simple. > > > > > > I'll bet we even have the same reasons for separating the genders in > > > camp > > > settings, right? > > > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > >Allzeit bereit f�r Jesus, > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------- > > > >Stefan Fischer (Fani) > > > >Stammwart, Stamm 78 M�tzingen > > > >z.Zt. 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