Well, Duane, you assume that simply being present in the class is sufficient to earn the award. It ain't. Bible Study pages need to be completed, merit worksheets need to be completed, the actual skills need to be signed off. I have several boys who have been to every class and have never bothered to do the work involved to earn the awards. Net result: when merits and patches are awarded, they don't get them. Encouragement and one-on-one hasn't helped. They simply don't care about the awards. However, they've missed very few campouts and they have all the campskills and Bible knowledge I've ever taught.

So I guess I miss your point. What was it?

At 11:35 AM 9/3/2003 -0700, Ace Numer- Uno wrote:

Just a clanging bell to say that *Teaching Ranger material
like a course of classwork is redundent to the notion of "scouting"

Yes it may be effective, and erase any mental prep work<G>

But it also shoots individual achievement and the associated "Honor"
of personal effort in the foot. In the troop we attend.. a boy who
attends the meetings and campouts may *never make rank or rate.

He might be asked why he isn't interested in advancement.. But he
never is given a bribe or cut a break on his duty.   The weekly meeting
is often crazy or disorganized.  Getting a handbook signed is hard
to do.. unless you get it done by your personal effort.

How does teaching a Royal Ranger sunday school lesson promote the gold
points?

How does holding a lecture/reading class relate to "earning" anything?

Later in the life of every American Citizen...

*Do we advance in life by attending classes, or by enguageing in the
struggle with all our talents?

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--- Andy Burns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it holds to Rich's original concept back in 1998, when he introduced
> it to us at the All Commanders Conference in NCN, It's definitely
> designed to let boys jump in on the subject the Outpost is currently
> working on, so that the Commander doesn't have to continually switch
> gears and back track when new boys join in.  The boys who miss one
> particular subject will just catch that subject on the next trip around
> the circle.
>
> Parson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Ken Komoto
> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 12:24 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RR] New program ?
>
> They work on exactly the same lesson as the rest of the boys.   But
> instead
> of earning the Ram badge when done, they will earn the Antelope.  What
> you
> earn each quarter is based upon what you already have, not upon a
> specific
> lesson.
>
> At least, that's the way it appears to have been designed.  I'm not sure
>
> how all that works in practice because of the way the material is
> organized.  It appears to be badge specific on a quarter by quarter
> basis,
> which is not how it was originally explained...  I'm seeing the same
> thing
> in the Discovery Ranger material...
>
> At 01:52 PM 8/29/2003 -0400, CmdrPier wrote:
> >We started Rangers Kids this Spring.  I recall the program is to be
> >circular - a boy can jump in at any point and keep up with the group.
> >
> >Now, we have a bunch of boys who have earned the first rank, Cougar I
> think.
> >When we reconvene this fall, what do the new boys start on as the older
> >group from last year will be working on the next rung of the ladder?
> >
> >Confused in PA
> >Kelvin
> >
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