Lets try this also:
Give you a different spin on your situation. Let's say that by going to
Royal Rangers that the young man is trained and becomes the next Billy
Graham.
Keep him in Youth and this does not come about. Something to think
about.
Keith
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From: Robert Triphahn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Date: 08 03 99 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [RR] youth and GMA
>Spirit Rider,
>>
>> All,
>> Say you got a pioneer that lacks 10 merits to finish GMA
>> and can not finish because he is forced into youth.
>> Don't you think that boy will have bitterness towards the
>> church? I do.
>
>Situation ethics. His bitterness will come from the bitterness you are
>exhibiting in your post. We realize the situation is not ideal. What
>does your pastor say regarding alternative nights or so-to-say joint
>custody (working on Saturdays or meeting before church on Sunday
>nights). Do you have the leadership in place to handle Pioneers,
>Trailblazers, and Trail Rangers?
>
>We can debate all kinds of different potential situations. They are
>exactly that "potential situations". Stick with the facts. Submit to
>your pastor. Pray. Encourage. Communicate between your Sr. Cmdr. and
>Pastor. Show the willingness of the young Ranger to achieve the GMA to
>the pastor. The pastor may have a change of heart.
>
>Give you a different spin on your situation. Let's say that by going to
>youth that the young man is trained and becomes the next Billy Graham.
>Keep him in Rangers and this does not come about. Something to think
>about.
>
>> How would like someone to tell you "you can't be a Royal Rangers
>> commander because you're to old (ie. 45-50)."?
>
>That would be ok. If confirmed, then I would believe it is The Holy
>Spirit leading me in another direction. Just because we want to be Royal
>Ranger leaders does not mean it is God's will.
>
>> I think pastors need to place themselves in the kids shoes before
>> making policies that will effect them, maybe for the rest of there >
lifes.
>
>How about placing yourself in your Pastor's shoes. What is his reasoning
>for having 12 and up go to Youth? He probably has insights into the
>situation that you are not seeing.
>
>> Like John said, there are 12 and even 13 year olds that has no >
business going to youth.
>
>Agreed. Each child is different. Think about this. What is the purpose
>of Youth but to reach, teach, and keep youth for Christ. To make
>disciples of Jesus Christ. To teach them how to handle the peer
>pressures places on them today. Please read Gal. 5:15. No more Rangers
>verse Youth. Each plays vital part in the body of Christ.
>
>> I want you to think about something: Who reaches the majorty of kids >
before they go into youth? Royal Rangers and Missonetts.
>> To me this is how we should work with youth:
>> Royal Rangers and Missonetts brings them in and cleans them. Youth
>> finishes makeing them into young men and women that take over the
>> churches.
>
>Nice thought. Doesn't work in reality. Why? Because Youth "cleans" them
>too. Rangers and Missionette's "Finishes" them also. Both ministry /
>programs have their purpose in the body of Christ and reach different
>individuals at different levels of maturity.
>
>Just my humble opinion.
>
>In His service.
>
>Bob Triphahn
>Sr. Cmdr. O/P 312
>Victory Church
>St. Clair, Mo.
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