Well said brother, excellent post.

God's divine rule and authority in the church runs like this.

Father

Son 

Holy Spirit

Pastor

Ministry Leadership

I do not know if any of you have ever heard of Rick Godwin. I suggest you
get the video of his sermon 'Catching the Spirit of the Leader' 

He starts by saying that there are only 2 proffessions in this world that
start from the top down..... Well Digging & Grave Digging.

To those who resigned.... I cannot judge, only God can do that.

But I will say that in our outpost we follow God's divine rule and
authority.

We get revelation from the top down. to operate our own agenda from the
bottom up
is revolution.

If your pastor has a Royal Ranger Outpost figuring in his vision for the
local corporate body of the church then as commanders and outpost
councilmen it is your duty to catch hold of that vision and run with it.
after all it is that pastor, the set man who is providing the covering for
your ministry.

to anyone out there reading this please appologise for my tone. I feel very
passionate about obedience in this and other associated matters. I do not
intend any offence.

We are blessed at Nelson, Outpost England 51, because our pastor is 110%
for us.

Our prayers are that you and especcialy the children you reach are blessed
but that most of all Father God is glorified in it.

Yours in Jesus

Stu Precious

Senior Commander
Outpost England 51

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> From: Duane Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [RR] 79 Resigned
> Date: 24 August 1999 06:49:pm
> 
> 
> *Day two thoughts..
> 
> > Brothers - I have been lurking in Rangernet for a couple of years now
and 
> > have been blessed by the ideas, prayers and support shared in this
network. 
> 
> Rangernet's core group prays for blessings to flow on all Rangers, and
> invites those "outside the light of the fire" to share at any time...
> 
> It's my opinion that we all share the warmth of one campfire.
> 
> 
> 
> > It has been a sad couple of weeks this month as the unimaginable has 
> > happened. I felt led to come out of lurking and ask for prayer for the 
> > (ex)commanders and boys of what was one of the strongest outposts in
Ohio 
> > District, Outpost 79.
> 
> Ohio had a very strong show at the National Camp.. In some ways, as in
> developing your Ranger campgrounds, you expand the the blessing of Cdr.
> Johnnies wonderfull dream of an army of boys serveing Jesus!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  As I sat in Commander John's living room surrounded by 
> > commanders with almost 150yrs of collective service in the Royal
Rangers and 
> > one bye one when called upon the almost unanimous vote (myself included
) was 
> > neigh. The question was -- Will you remain on as a commander in our
outpost? 
> > Why? You ask, well because I am not a member of the church where our
outpost 
> > meets therefore I cannot comment publicly on what led  these men to
resign 
> > from Rangers and most of them from the church also, but as someone
outside of 
> > this particular church I have seen enough to know that I clearly
support 
> > them.
> 
> 
> *OK.. this woke me up...
> 
> Here's why.
> 
> We often use "OUR" vision or sight to decide or judge the situation based
> on "OUR" ethic or strongly held belief. When we ally or join a small
> group,such as Ranger Commander do.. 
> 
> We sometimes "prefere" the success or back our efforts for the
> continuation of the "small group" or personal ministry
> of friends and self. *That in it's self may not lead to distruction.. 
> 
> But it makes it harder for a shepard to lead his flock, or for the Holy
> Spirit to guide us in our walk to the greater goal... It also builds
> "exclusiveness" and a shell from outsiders and their ministry and 
> *vision..
> 
> Voteing to disband and leave a church.. is contrary to our Ranger Pledge
> to: *With God's help do my best to SERVE GOD- MY CHURCH- and Fellow man..
> 
> If you as a Ranger would preach leaveing a campsight cleaner than when
you
> arrive.. No real Ranger would leave in lockstep, a situation ripe with
> discord and strife.  *If you do leave.. 
> 
> LEAVE THE OUTPOST ALIVE AND IN GOOD HANDS!  *Bless those that follow and
> lift them up!  We win wars by our GOOD ACTION, not by the tactics of
> devistation..
> 
> Prayer changes things.. and again! *WE MAY NOT KNOW ALL THE FACTS!
> 
> (Wisdom often is the result of waiting too see the true situation
> displayed and acting from reason and a good spirit..)
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  As you serve side by side with someone - much as you do in our 
> > governments military service - a strong bond is built up, a bond that
God's 
> > own enemy cannot sever. These men have a heart and desire to serve the
Lord 
> > and fullfill our mission to Reach, Teach, and Keep Boy's for Jesus
Christ - 
> > and our avenue to do this has been blown up, not our desire, nor our
bond, 
> > but just the church home we serve in. I honestly believe that the
church does 
> > not know the impact this has on the youth in our community and quite
possably 
> > its own membership.   Many of you in Ohio know of our outpost and the
caliber 
> > of men whom I have had the honor to serve with, many of your boys have 

> > visited our camp at this years Pow Wow (we had the rope bridge as an 
> > entranceway) and we have visited with you. Some untrue things have are
being 
> > said about the leaders within our outpost so please, whatever you here,
pray 
> > for discernment before forming an opinion. Keep us in prayer as we try
to 
> > find another avenue to serve. Keep me in prayer as I establish
communication 
> > with the boys of my outpost to try and let them know I will not be
there when 
> > our outpost resumes its meetings next month 
> 
> 
> *Honorable men will allways do right.. ALLWAYS!
> 
> Honorable men can stand inthe light of day and speek the truth!
> 
> *but PRIDE.. comes before a fall!
> 
> Be very sure that the straw pole that was taken exibited Honor and not
> false pride.. The boys are at stake.. and frankly, Commanders are dime a
> dozen!  Some "Men" we admire have made wrong choices in prefering
> "Ministry" to "Family" and over the long haul will pay a dear price..
> 
> Your situation may be truely unique... *and of course I may be all wet<G>
> Hehehee  ...run it by Sonny Green for his .02cents!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> (my heart breaks even now again 
> > as I compose this message- please believe me that resigning was not an
easy 
> > decision to make for myself and my brothers in the Lord - tears were
and 
> > still are being shed. 
> 
> *consider returning! What would it take?
> 
> ..seperate fact from fiction, and do the work God calls you to do with
joy
> and lightness.<G>
> 
> 
> I pray that some men from within the church step 
> > forward to continue on or refer the boys to where we will be serving
and not 
> > allow ego's and church politics get in the way of seeing these boys
saved and 
> > fed the word. Our desire would be no boy lost and I personnally would
like to 
> > field your opinions on how and what to communicate to the Boys without 
> > slingin mud.
> > _______
> 
> 
> The boys want a good campout<G>
> 
> Do that!
> 
> 
> Brother.. this putting down the flesh is hard!
> But for our spiritman to soar.. we have to let go!
> 
> -=A=-
> 
> 
> 
> 
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