I thought Jesus was the shepard and we were the sheep? I see the model
of the decon board in the new testement but where can I find the model of
the pastor? Is there one?
Mark
On Wed, 8 Sep 1999 08:27:14 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> David:
>
> I understand your concern but, consider this. God has replaced
> more
> responsibility on the pastor that he has on us. The pastor is
> ultimately
> responsible for the Ranger ministry in your church. While the
> pastor is not
> the end-all for your Christianity, he is your Shepard and you are
> the sheep.
>
> Scott Tobman
> #22, Indiana
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Topper [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 1999 9:04 PM
> > To: Ranger Net
> > Subject: [RR] 79 - whole new can of worms
> >
> > No offense to our precious brother Stuart but.......
> >
> > That opening statement kinda rubs me wrong and I don't think it
> should be
> > ignored.
> > I believe it went something like this:
> >
> > "God's divine rule and authority in the church runs like this.
> > Father
> > Son
> > Holy Spirit
> > Pastor
> > Ministry Leadership"
> >
> >
> > I do recognize the authority and added responsibility of pastoral
> > leadership but I believe we tend to give it more authority and
> > responsibility than the Bible does.
> >
> > We do not need to go through a priest anymore we go directly to
> God and
> > are responsible directly to God.
> > If our kids are not raised knowing the gospel it's not the
> children's
> > pastors falt.
> > If our spouse is not being ministered to it's not the falt of WMs.
> > If we are not involved in the ministry that God has called us to
> we will
> > answer directly to God.
> > Your Pastor or your "Ministry Leadership" have no authority or
> > responsibility for you or your family. They are responsible for
> their
> > family and their ministry but only you will answer to God for you
> and
> > yours.
> >
> > This may seem elementary but you may be surprised how many times
> we avoid
> > our responsibilities by using this military chain of command
> leadership
> > model.
> >
> > Maybe you think I'm overreacting to what seems like a small point
> but I
> > believe many Protestant churches have elevated the pastor to a
> level close
> > to the catholic priesthood. No one moves without getting the
> pastors
> > opinion or blessing. Pastors, lay pastors and pastoral staff taste
> this
> > highly addictive authority and get used to so it's rarely
> discouraged.
> >
> > (Did someone say "shepherding")
> >
> >
> > Whew.....glad to get that off my chest.
> >
> > David Topper
> > Vancouver, WA
> >
> >
> > BTW Years in RR 7 as a boy 5 as adult.
> >
> >
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