Re: [RR] GRTS

[Brian Binette]

It is really funny that you mention this today.  I was just thinking of my experience with Mr. Deaver this evening in church then I came home and read this.  I have come to the conclusion that Mr. Deaver is very old school.  He does not seem to embrace technology the way we have.  My unfavorable experience with Mr. Deaver came during the 1992 (I believe that was the year) Northeast regions commander and wife retreat.  I had come late to the opening service and when I came in the group was singing "Awesome God" by Rich Mullins, and Mr. Deaver then proceeded to spend his entire sermon preaching against the evils of chrisitian rock.  I was at Bible College at time and several of my class mates had become saved at  these concerts.  I had thought this was very hippocritical of him especially since he was hawking his wares at a cost of $1000 and more.  He was saying how it was wrong to charge for t shirts and tapes and tickets, yet he didn't seem to realize how his art was very similar to these musicians "art".  There are costs involved to running a concert and putting out a tape or cd, which include materials and time, exactly like his sculptures and painitings (which were all beautiful and he is a very talented artist, just like many of these musicians are). I'm not here to preach for or against this type of music (which BTW I enjoy) but I thought that conference was not the forum for that type of sermon.  It took me a long time to forgive him for that, but my point is that if we petition Mr. Deaver for this comment he made lets do it in love and caring or we are no better than he.  We also have to remember that he is the man we elected to the post.  I lost a lot of respect for Mr. Deaver that evening, however he is the president of FCF and we do need to respect that of him and treat him with that respect if we call him on this error in judgement on his part. My humble opinion Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: Rick Barnhouse To: RangerNet Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2000 5:21 PM Subject: [RR] GRTS Just got back from the Gulf Regional Training Seminar. Had a great time of inspiration and classes. Brian Hendrickson shared the new "DRAFT" plan with us which seemed to be received very well.   One thing that really bothered me.... Fred Deaver spoke at the rally on Fri night and one of the things he said was that people from all over were calling him and telling him all the negative things they were hearing about the "New Program" on the "Ranger Web Thing". I can only assume he meant RangerNet. He said "Sounds like a Ranger Gossip Chain to me". I wasn't aware any of us on RangerNet were blasting the new program. I thought I had only heard positive and open-minded comments. Perhaps we should all (500 of us) call Fred and tell him how excited we are. Otherwise whoever is out there lurking and reading negativism into the RangerNet, GETALIFE and unsubscribe!   Rick Barnhouse Bolivar, MO SO. MO. Dist Special Program Coordinator   P.S. Goal = 2.5 million boys save through Royal Rangers ministry in the next 10 years!!!. This is NOT Negative stuff.