Look at it from this perspective: For the first time in US history, more
people live in cities than not. Now imagine you're an 8 year old in Chicago.
You've never seen a cow (except in the media), carrying an axe is a
suspicious activity & flashlights are only for powerfailures. Camping is not
terribly relevant to you.

You're right tho, camping is tremendously valuable in ministering to boys. I
love camping & probably would not be in RR w/o it, however the mandate is to
reach, teach & keep boys for Christ not go camp. An urban alternative is
desperately needed. Sure we could teach inner city kids about campcraft but
we wouldn't reach too many & those we did we wouldn't keep long. To be
effective, RR must be relevant. See what Cdr. Mariott is facing?

--Allen

On Wed, 12 Apr 2000 05:58:40 -0500, Mark W Jones wrote:

>  Gary I agree with the points you made.  The question I put to the test is
>  if they don't camp won't that leave them out of alot of events? 
>  Camporama, Pow Wow, Sectional Pow Wows, Outpost Campouts... If camping
>  won't be required to be a Royal Ranger then one could pull the plug on a
>  huge part of Royal Rangers.  It does say there is a outdoor emphasis but
>  that is not camping.
>  
>  Royal Rangers is built around camping.  It is the vehicle we use to do
>  our Ministry.  It won't be Royal Rangers if they don't camp.  Perhaps a
>  better name would be Missioneers.  They could get their camping patch by
>  camping in someones back yard then if they wanted to spend the rest of
>  the evening playing computer games or watching the game on TV you know
>  spend quality time in Man's world. 
>  
>  Perhaps we could have a missioneers part of Royal Rangers.  Give the boys
>  a navy blue sash and a couple hundred patches and send them to ball
>  games, movies, play basket ball.  Give up the camping equipment for more
>  pews, desks, internet services, teach them how to make a bed, vacume the
>  carpet great stuff like well you know stuff you find inside the man made
>  walls.  This will allow us to focus in on Man's Creations.
>  
>  It isn't Royal Rangers if they don't camp.  If they want a missioneers
>  program then form one. 
>  
>  Royal Rangers Camp.
>  
>  God created the Heavens and the Earth.  
>  
>  The upside to this I have learned from 20 years with a large company. 
>  New ideas come and go but what works will be the game and won't don't
>  work will fade quickly.  Camping works it is the heart and soul of Royal
>  Rangers.  It lays the ground work for almost every good way to Reach,
>  Teach and Keep boys for Christ.  I do see a need to revise our Leaders
>  Manuals, Camping manuals to bring them up to date.  There are a lot
>  better methods to camp then what they had 40 years ago.  The Challengers
>  manual is a fine example of great ideas and updates.  
>  
>  Sitting around this Rangernet Campfire with a cup of coffee in hand and
>  discussing this issue is good.  It needs to be done.   
>  
>  Your turn!
>  
>  Mark Jones





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