>  *No Flames!
>
> We are Rangers!
>
> What a relief !

 Yea.. to me that means *comrade *amigo *Buddy-pal and the little bumps and
differences are overcome by our allegiance to the common cause!

>
>
> But they might be activated now by somebody after reading the following.
>
> I know it is a touchy subject with my US-Ranger friends.
>
> But he thought hit me today that all this girls-in-Rangers-or-not stuff,
> does the US-arrangement not resemble some type of apartheid thinking ?

*Perhaps it seems that way- but in truth it is simply a product of how in
the USA the Ranger program was created..  Cdr.Johnnie was appointed
and began to put things togather from over here and over there...

The Man -boy was natural because the founding sponsors were the Men's ministry
and we already had established Missionetts as a group sponsored by WMC
Women's Missionary Council. *Ok that history-<G>

*But along with developing an excellent program, the concept of "Leadership"
was integrated into the program, and we began to think of "Building the leaders
of tomorrow" and used the phrase: "Never did a man stand so tall as when he
stooped (*got down on his knees) for a boy" *Clearly the word picture is of a
Man "ministering" to a boy...

National training began with the LTC courses 1-4 and was followed by
NTC... at that time Ranger training was fairly up-to date... But always
there was a regional difference in concepts of "Holiness" and the role of
Women in service to the church.   *Some are confused by believing
that when God created man he intended all leadership to pass through men
and that women are to be subservient or to abstain from leadership
over men...

*In 1990 the Assemblies of God published a position paper to clarify it's
understanding of the role of women in service to the church, and it was
adopted and signed by the General Council of the AoG. (*stand-by I'll
re-publish it for your reading enjoyment)


>
> It took a long and painful time in the US to get away from the segregation
> issue - see Birmingham Alabama and such, and it seems that this train of
> thought is still prevelant, only this time it seems to be stuck with RR's.
> I understand that the RR's emerged from the mens ministry and is still an
> arm of it in the US.

*That's interesting in that "civil rights" were in the news at the time of the
formation of Royal Rangers... as was a positive view of the "para-military"
from Americas participation in WW2... To some extent the "culture" shifted
away from that then recently shifted back<G> *Culture as well as fashion can be
fickle<G>

Germany was destroyed and forced to review the consequences of it's militaristic

attitudes and the result was that many social changes were integrated by the re-

building of your nation.  Social issues were addressed early, and you grew up
with different attitudes as well as opportunities...

> Yet could this not be reconsidered and allow the woman into RR's right up to
> Trail Rangers ?

*Sure- and in fact it is being "looked at" with the integration of programs in
the older youth ages, *But was nixed- or scraped when Missionetts bucked
at the thought.   We are back at the primitive stage of thinking in the USA
that Missionetts is for the girls and RRangers is for the boys and everybody is
happy!


> What is the problem ?

*Often- our Ranger leadership was based on personal friendships and allegiances
to personalities.  In the 1960's  the founders kept saying the boys were
the next 'era" where leaders would come from.. However, the way they
lived was not to promote boys to leaders but to "hang-on" forever...if that
was the goal... then an army of 1962 Rangers would be on-line<G>Heheee.



I like this new crowd in Springfield... *they want the program to reflect values

and be understandable, easy and whole... so rest assured the problems are
known and being "worked out"<G>


>
> We do it succesfully for as long as the RR's are in Germany and will
> continue to do so.
> Actually the RR's where tried out first at OP #1 in Bremen by a fine lady by
> the name of Britta Oberpaur. Her husband is now sectional leader of northern
> Germany.
> Her positive hands-on-report kicked off Rangers in Germany.

*When I  "Let-go" of trying to 'control or dominate... of trying to *Order
right behavior.. and  see my job as raising "morale" and moving the group
in the right direction... then I am free to enjoy my time as a Royal Ranger..
and with pride see boys step up to the task of becoming leaders themselves!

*Have you ever shared a chocolate bar with the group on a cold trail?

I carried that thing, and opened it didn't say a word-and *shared it.. everyone
got a chunk.. they all got a lift and! *I didn't have to carry it's weight
anymore<G>
I "gave it away"   *I want to give it away- *everything and leave for my Father
in heaven, bulah land and the un-cloudy day!


>
> We have woman trainers at NTC, JLTC and so on.
>
> Following the posts of Cmdr. Jen makes me envious. She would be a great
> asset over here in Germany and I would greatly appreciate it if she could be
> a trainer on my next NTT in September in Luxembourg.

*She'd probably go<G>

>
>
> Please forgive me for bringing this (again?) up for I know how often this
> subject took up space on RR-net.

*It's a big space... verstayen-zee?<G>

We have time to settle the dust, eat the hay and build something useful out
of the sticks<G>

*Love you Brother!

Cdr.Duane -=A=-
Portland,Oregon

>
> But I could not resist sharing my thoughts.
>
> And if you use the flame thrower on me please do it professionally.
>
> Because of Jesus
>
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> OP 64
> Siegen
> Germany
>
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