--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I agree! My older boys would be in an uproar if I
> told 
> them that they would not participate in Pinewood
> derby. 

Perhaps I have offended a sacred cow, but our
older boys don't miss pinewood derby one bit,
and consider it along with the OP leadership-
a "little boys event".

I explained to Cdr.Jones that our OP has
chosen to work with the Youth Pastor and the
Childrens pastor, to build the greater ministry
of the church over a single program.

The compromise,  we made was to separate 
the older Ranger boy, who would desire to earn 
the GMA from those who would be better off at a
youth meeting with others their age.

Identifying the interest in the pinewood derby
and limiting it to younger age groups allows
them to hold this as a major fundraiser for
their Op's and separateing the older boys let's
them feel they have come of age, promotes
advancement and high adventure based events.

The older boys meet bi-monthly for a "adventure"
or outdoor event, hike ect. They advance at
a self-pace and are central to our churches youth
outreach.

In Christ-

Cdr.Roy OP88


> They are at the age where they love to do
> there"cars" 
> all on their own. A few of my boys have placed well
> in 
> show and race at the District level. What a real
> sense 
> of accomplishment! They love it.
> 
> Geno Plares
> O.P.#178 NCal/Nev.
> San Jose,CA.
> > In a message dated 10/23/2000 3:23:02 PM Central
> Daylight Time, 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > 
> > > I don't let my older boys participate
> > >  because it's just too "cub scout" of an event.
> > >  
> > >  In Christ-
> > >  Roy  OP88
> > 
> > Then your older boys are missing out!!!!!!!
> > 
> > Michael
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