Ken Komoto wrote:
>
> How is this possible? Especially, the first piece?
I'm not sure I understand... is it that the church "subdued"
it's affiliation?
If you are teaching
> the meaning
> of the Four Red Points, You are teaching the four MAIN DOCTRINES of the AoG!
*I agree with the four RED points, as that is my heritage, and
agree with your thinking.. *But as said, without active guidelines
from the church, and oversight... We *could have taught a
para-military secular *program and never have been questioned.
There
> are 16 points in the 'We Believe...' statement, but the four red points are the
> doctrines held most dear.
*Lot's of RR outpost's never get around to teaching much
doctrine... because you can only drive as fast as the boys
will allow with their age-mental-social-attitude sometimes
acting as a brake<G> *If you lack a planed meeting, or
have disruptive boys, fights, anger issues ect. and fall back
to a Adult led form of dominate leadership.. *how is that
condusive to religious instruction and deep doctrinal discussion?
>
> When we first cranked up RR in our church, eight men who were known
> quantities were
> chosen to be the initial cadre.
*In our fab Outpost.. 8 men left when we (Cdr.Jen and I)
arrived.. and they shut down Rangers except for our group!
In time... We "grew back" but never with any member of the
church or former Ranger leader.. *ALL LEADERSHIP was recruted
from outside our church, with incomming transfers from
other outposts<G>
For several years... We were expected to fail, and no one
knew why we did not<G> *We in the OP207 leadership team
had formed a Leader *Patrol! We used our own resources and
inginueity..
After that, any person desiring to be a Royal
> Ranger commander was interviewed, fingerprinted and DoJ background searched.
> I'm not sure we ask exact beliefs, but if someone were to REFUSE to teach any
> part of the RR program/AoG theology, he/she would probably be denied a
> position...
*Right..
I'm aware of that thinking...
I decided it was a moral issue of an individuals heart, and
when a family left for another fellowship I didn't dismiss
the Lt.Cdr.Dad, but invited him to stay as long as the "Lord"
wanted...
>
> As to your third point, both pastoral staff and Sr Commander make the
> assumption that commanders are adhering to the RR planning guides. I don't think
>any of
> the pastoral staff or RR commanders ever asked me exactly what it was I was
> teaching
> on any given night.
*Frankly, I was hauled into a meeting and criticized for
useing RR LTC as a guideline to *challenge the pastoral
authority of the Childrens "pastor"... He wanted us to
be an extention of his "superchurch" and not a real RR
Outpost. His idea was to shut down Trailblazers and send
them to youth. His idea was "No camping"...
A very tough and unique situation that still brings gas to
my belly... Burrrrrp!
-=A=-
>
> At 09:26 AM 1/18/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >Cdr.Jen and I were wrangled in, to lead Buckaroo's and we had a
> >rip-roar'n let 'er Buck operation<G>
> >
> >*Not one time.. was I asked to teach on the doctrine of the AoG!
> >*Not one time.. was I interviewed by the childrens pastor for *Beliefs!
> >*Not one time.. Did any person in my church inquire as to what I was
> >teaching in Royal Rangers!
>
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> University of California Fax : (530)752-0329
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