--- clint grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stephan,
>
> You CANNOT, I repeat CANNOT read this book or condone the reading
> thereof and still be in God's will, according to the Word. It says to
> flee the very appearance of evil. If the Harry Potter series does not
> appear this way to you, I would humbly suggest that you spend some time
> with your Maker. That goes double for the dunce on here who said this is
> a good read.
*One time I walked up to a circle of Commanders at Powwow who
began to talk about how important it is to prevent Women to
camp as equals to Men, before the "boys"...
The circle responded with "amen..."
What I want to know is there any room for Freedom of speech
and thought when such "presumed logic" is stated so forcefully?
In an extream... speaking out against others, and assumeing
agreement my be a form of co-ersion.. or political beguilement
leading to social manipulation equal to conjureing a desired
outcome.
Such activities are in fact, very simular to witchcraft.
*What point of the Ranger Code are you holding up?
-=*=-
This book, and some of the opinions in regards to it, are
> examples of the moral decay that is even pervading the church. A friend
> of mine spoke to a woman on a plane who told him that her pastor advised
> her to have an affair. Said maybe it would give her husband a wake-up
> call. Jesus was tougher on sin than anyone, yet never judged anyone.
> There IS a difference. The world is not a misunderstood friend, it is
> your ENEMY. It HATES you. Why on earth you people defend it so much I'll
> never understand.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Stefan Fischer
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 5:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Re: [RR] Question
>
> Hi,
>
>
> > John, If Josh feels strongly that he should not read the Harry Potter
> books
>
> One of my brother's friends who is a professor at an AoG theological
> seminary once said: 'Only by reading you will find out what is not worth
> being read.'
>
> > On another note - why is it that several on this list are determined
> to
> > change opinions of those who feel things are ungodly?
>
> My favourite christian band had the following song on one of their CDs:
>
>
> Everybody lokk there's a new bandwagon in town
> Hop on board and let the wind carry you around
> Seems there's not enough to keep us busy 'till the Lord comes back
> Don Quixote's got to have another windmill to attack
>
> Another Witch Hunt looking for evil wherever we can find it
> Off on a tangent, hope the Lord won't mind it
> Another Witch Hunt, takin' a break from all our Gospel labor
> On a crusade but we forgot our saber
>
> There's a new way to spend all our energies
> We're up in arms instead of down on our knees
> Walkin' over dollars trying to find another dime
> Never mind the souls 'caus we really haven't got the time
>
> So send out the dogs and tally ho
> Before we sleep tonight we got miles to go
> No one is safe, no stone is left unturned
> And we won't stop 'till somebody gets burned
> Brothers
>
>
> I don't want to judge the Harry Potter books, because I have never read
> them. The problem I see is that this is the same with most people that
> judge
> them to be ungodly. Most people I have heard talking about the dangers
> in
> Harry Potter (yes, it is the same over here in Germany) had to admit
> they
> knew about that from a book/from another person... This is what I would
> call
> a 'Witch Hunt' (how matching...).
>
> > YOU have no idea what convictions God has placed in the lives of
> OTHERS
> This may be right, but you will have to admit that there is some other
> guy
> that might also be placing convictions in people's lives, for example
> wanting them to start witch hunts like these.
>
> > It is possible that Josh and John have a personal conviction about
> reading
> > certain books (doesn't matter if the books are Harry Potter or Hardy
> Boys)
> > so they should live by their convictions.
>
> One can also read a book in a critical way (to know whether it is worth
> being read or not (see above)).
>
> > If a discussion on the books is warranted - great! Answer John's
> question
> > - without judgment and discuss the books in a separate e-mail. Let's
> try
> > to help each other before we jump on the opinion bandwagon.
>
> I hope it was helpful and without judgement (I deleted a part I thought
> to
> be somewhat judging), if not please forgive me...
>
> Always prepared for Jesus.
>
> --------------------------------------------
> Stefan Fischer (Fani)
> Pioneer-Commander, OP #78 Moetzingen/Germany
> http://www.royal-ranger.com
> --------------------------------------------
>
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