This message is cc'ed to a few of the people at eff who are apparently in charge of the website and I presume mailing, I don't actually see Marc's name on the list of staff etc, though a quick search shows his name with this title "EFF sysadmin, activist"... Perhaps he should be fixing this after all, or maybe it isn't his area anymore and the other people can fix it instead. Either way, it would be nice for it to get fixed so that the EFF can continue doing what it is supposed to and we can get on with actually working on how to stop the flow of spam.
Actually, *you* don't get it (or else *we* are all being idiots and haven't released that this is just a .... hmmm, whats the word... known on usenet where someone drops a message into alt.modesty about how we should have the option to walk around naked and everyone immediately gets all hot and bothered and floods the group...) EFF's newsletter is free speech and is sent to people who requested it as well as people who did not request it. People on *this* list have said they successfully subscribed a different email address (hopefully the address they subscribed was their own also). Either way, this proves that EFF has people on it's mailing list who do not really want to be there. People who did not want to receive it, and who never subscribed themselves, called it spam, (because it is) and therefore it was called spam by a lot of people who wouldn't normally call it spam. Because they made a decision to throw away emails they didn't know anything about, they missed the important EFF newsletter. (This box that came in the post is the same size and colour as the one my friend got that was full of dog poo, I'll just chuck it out.... Oh dear, I was expecting a new laptop, it still hasn't arrived). No, the bottom line is that we KNOW subscribers to YOUR list do NOT want to receive it. Therefore, they called it spam. End of story. So since you can't prove that every single one of your '30000' 'subscribers' actually want to receive your newsletter, then it is YOUR FAULT! Razor is designed to put as little load/requirement/work/effort on the reporter of the email, this is why it works so well. The requirement for determining why something was reported to razor rests with the person sending out the email (YOU!). However, numerous people have helped you to determine the reason, you are just wearing blinkers and pretending the problem lies somewhere else. If you don't want to fix the problem, then keep whining and don't do anything, if you want it fixed, then shutup, fix your mailing list, verify (not re-verify, because they never were) your mailing list, and then come back and ask *nicely* and we will help some more, because deep down, we are really nice people. EFF is interfering with my right to be able to use the internet without having to read about some group called EFF... I therefore formally request that the EFF show the public verifiable evidence of each and every member of their newsletter having requested to be on their mailing list. If you can't demonstrate that EFF has verified every subscription address then the fault is with the EFF and it should be blacklisted by anyone and everyone, and the EFF is irresponsible. I am not interested in guesses and theories that they "might" have subscribed themselves because they entered some public knowledge data. I want to see the evidence. So - can EFF show me or not? Regards, Adam ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
