On Friday 18 August 2006 01:51, Lucio Chiappetti wrote:
> We have recently added Razor2 (the RPM in the Suse 9.2 distribution) to
> our servers' antispam configuration (based on sendmail with amavisd-new
> milter and spamassassin).
>
> We installed the RPM, did the minimum setup suggested in the spamassassin
> wiki page (but we did NOT register an identity as [EMAIL PROTECTED])
> and enabled razor2 in the spamassassin configuration. Everything seems to
> be running OK ... razor2 has rejected some financial scam spam which
> spamassassin alone was not catching.
>
> We wonder whether in our configuration (which is systemwide on the
> servers, not single user) there is a need to register an identity.
>
> We do not plan to use the report or revoke commands manually. Also we do
> not exactly understand what "reporting" is : is it just "nominating" a
> message as candidate spam, or is also reporting an hit by an already
> classified spam to increase a spam count ?
>
> Will the combination of amavis and spamassassin imply automatic reporting
> (in any of the senses above) ? If not, do we need to register ?
 
If razor is marking spam (note: Neither Razor Nor Spamassassin REJECT spam
as you implied) and razor is showing up in your spamassassin taging then
you are gaining the benefit of Razor with what you have done to date.

If you want to report spam trapped by other means, you need to register
(its simple) and you technically only need one registration per server.  
Reporting spam that either was missed or caught by means other than
razor prevents you and other razor users from getting that same spam 
again.  

But: unless you have a method in place for your users to feed missed spam
back into spamassassin with the -r option this will be hard to implement.

Feeding spam back to spamassassin -r removes all the markup and
sends it through your bayes database for learning and sends the
hash to razor so that the next person who gets this same spam will
have a hit by razor.

Its fairly tedious to set this up and train all your users how
to use it, especially if they are on windows machines and just
get their mail from the server.  Sometimes this can be done
with imap by just creating a folder for each user called
"spam" and having them manually move any missed spam into
that folder.  You can then run something like report_spam.pl
against each of those folders.  (Google for report_spam.pl, its
in the spamassassin wiki).

With less experienced users, I wouldn't use reporting.  They are
just as likely to drag ham into that folder and report it as spam.
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John Andersen

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