On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> From: John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> If razor is marking spam (note: Neither Razor Nor Spamassassin REJECT spam
> as you implied) and razor is showing up in your spamassassin taging then
> you are gaining the benefit of Razor with what you have done to date.

I'm aware that from a strict technical point of view it's not rejecting, 
but with our configuration (using amavisd-new with 
$final_spam_destiny=D_REJECT, and quarantine to a daily-rotated folder) 
from the user point of view it's practically acting as rejection.

> But: unless you have a method in place for your users to feed missed spam
> back into spamassassin with the -r option this will be hard to implement.

I had overlooked "spamassassin -r", we use "sa-learn" instead.

> Its fairly tedious to set this up and train all your users how to use 
> it, [...] creating a folder for each user called "spam" and having them 
> manually move any missed spam into that folder.

We have a similar arrangement for sa-learn, users copy missed spam to a 
scratch area, and the sysman retrieves it and submits it a crontab running 
sa-learn. A similar procedure, with more manual scrutiny, is used in 
principle for false-positive ham.

But all this involves only the local bayesian database. I would be quite 
reluctant to add reporting to external db like razor without a careful 
scrutiny by the sysmen, and I do not think they'll have time for it.

So the only thing I'd like to be sure is whether amavisd-new is not 
implicitly attempting razor reporting on our behalf. 

Remember our configuration

> > ... Razor2 (the RPM in the Suse 9.2 distribution) ... our antispam 
> > configuration (based on sendmail with amavisd-new MILTER and 
> > spamassassin).

Should I be sure amavisd-new is playing safe, or should I ask the amavis 
mailing list ?

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