Lucio wrote: > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> From: John Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> If razor is marking spam (note: Neither Razor Nor Spamassassin REJECT spam >> as you implied) and razor is showing up in your spamassassin taging then >> you are gaining the benefit of Razor with what you have done to date. > I'm aware that from a strict technical point of view it's not rejecting, > but with our configuration (using amavisd-new with > $final_spam_destiny=D_REJECT, and quarantine to a daily-rotated folder) > from the user point of view it's practically acting as rejection. Yes, but Razor is only one of many tests performed, and unless your kill_level is quite low, will not in itself be enough to quarantine spam. I think the maximum possible Razor score is 2.5. >> But: unless you have a method in place for your users to feed missed spam >> back into spamassassin with the -r option this will be hard to implement. > I had overlooked "spamassassin -r", we use "sa-learn" instead. >> Its fairly tedious to set this up and train all your users how to use >> it, [...] creating a folder for each user called "spam" and having them >> manually move any missed spam into that folder. > We have a similar arrangement for sa-learn, users copy missed spam to a > scratch area, and the sysman retrieves it and submits it a crontab running > sa-learn. A similar procedure, with more manual scrutiny, is used in > principle for false-positive ham. > But all this involves only the local bayesian database. I would be quite > reluctant to add reporting to external db like razor without a careful > scrutiny by the sysmen, and I do not think they'll have time for it. > So the only thing I'd like to be sure is whether amavisd-new is not > implicitly attempting razor reporting on our behalf. > Remember our configuration >> > ... Razor2 (the RPM in the Suse 9.2 distribution) ... our antispam >> > configuration (based on sendmail with amavisd-new MILTER and >> > spamassassin). > Should I be sure amavisd-new is playing safe, or should I ask the amavis > mailing list ? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lucio Chiappetti - INAF/IASF - via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano (Italy) > For more info : http://www.iasf-milano.inaf.it/~lucio/personal.html > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Amavisd-new does not call Razor directly (any more - since a long time ago). Even when it did, no Razor reporting was done. SpamAssassin calls Razor, and does not report to Razor during a normal test. 'spamassassin -r' will report to Razor, sa-learn or spamassassin net test will not. If reporting was done during the net test, I would think every piece of mail would be reported, so that can't happen. Gary V ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Using Tomcat but need to do more? Need to support web services, security? Get stuff done quickly with pre-integrated technology to make your job easier Download IBM WebSphere Application Server v.1.0.1 based on Apache Geronimo http://sel.as-us.falkag.net/sel?cmd=lnk&kid=120709&bid=263057&dat=121642 _______________________________________________ Razor-users mailing list Razor-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/razor-users
