Thanks everyone for the advise

I will pass it on

Marc



From: Ted Lienhard 
Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 9:43 AM
To: RBASE-L Mailing List 
Subject: [RBASE-L] - Re: Off topic Network Q


Hi Marc,

It is a good standard practice to avoid running network wires directly over 
flourescent fixtures and to have as much distance as possible from them as can 
be arranged...12" is good, the farther the better.  

The problem is induction of the 60Hz field from the ballasts into the network 
cable.  Here's the good news:  all cables with pairs of two conductors (Cat 5 
has 4 pairs in the jacket) have a certain amount of what is called "common mode 
rejection".  That's electronic engineer talk for the fact that a pair of wires 
in a voice or data circuit generally work in a "push-pull" mode (one conductor 
is at a positive voltage and the other is simultaneously at a negative 
voltage-they are different voltages...you could say they are "uncommon" in 
their normal mode).  Induction of an electrical current results in the same 
polarity in both conductors of a 2 conductor circuit, resulting in the 
rejection of the unwanted inductively coupled voltage being rejected by the 
push-pull circuitry - hence "common mode" rejection.  

When the two conductors are twisted together, any inductance from an unwanted 
source is more likely to be completely equal on both conductors...resulting in 
no interference due to the fact that the "common mode" voltages on both 
conductors are the same exact voltage.  The push-pull circuitry detects no 
difference between the conductors, voltage-wise, and does not recognize the 
interference.  

This all works fine in "free space"; the case where the cable is some distance 
away from the flourescent fixture, for example.  Where you get into trouble is 
where the magnetic field from the ballast is induced into the metal light 
housing, which then has your cable running over it.  In this case, it is 
entirely possible that one conductor of one pair will be in closer physical 
proximity to the housing (with its magnetic field) than the other conductor of 
the pair, resulting in induced voltages that are not equal; one conductor of 
the pair has a higher or lower voltage than the other.  Since common mode 
rejection requires a "common mode"; i.e., the same voltage on both conductors, 
the push-pull circuit interprets the interfering signal as legitimate voice or 
data.

In a voice circuit, you hear hum, in a data circuit the amplitude of the 
interference can be larger than the data being sent, resulting in lost packets 
and other errors.  

Bottom line, you want to keep your network cables as far from power lines and 
flourescent lights as possible, but never run a network cable directly in 
contact with flourescent fixtures or any armored power cable connected to them.

That is probably more information than you wanted to know, but there it is!

Best Regards,
Ted


Ted Lienhard CNE NCT
Golden Valley Consulting


>>> MDRD<[email protected]> 10/5/2009 6:59 AM >>>

Hi

I have heard you should have your Cat5 cables 4ft away from fluorescent lights
but the electrician wiring my new office says it is not necessary.

Is there any info from major companies that I can give him or am I being overly 
concerned?

Thanks
Marc

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