On Mar 13, 2009, at 11:51 PM, benzzoy wrote:

> On Mar 12, 3:17 pm, Aaron Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
>> .... But when it comes to climbing, I cannot
>> help but think that the extra 6+ lbs I'm hauling on my 23-ish lb.  
>> bike
>> (compared to their 16 -17lb bikes) puts me at a distinct  
>> disadvantage.
>
> If one discounts the psychology of having a heavier or lighter bike,
> it's all physics!

And biology.  And also knowing *how* to do a certain thing like  
climbing (in terms of the technique that works best for you).

> Go to http://www.analyticcycling.com/ and run some models.  My
> fiddling about comparing two otherwise identical riders

There are no two "otherwise identical riders," of course.  Heck, as  
benzzoy points out, I'm not even identical to myself from one day to  
the next.  :-)  I suspect it's the 20 lbs around my middle that puts  
me at a disadvantage, not the four pounds of my saddlebag and  
contents.  But even 20 lbs lighter in my racing days, I still got  
dropped like a brick anytime the road went up.



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