On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:51 PM, benzzoy <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Mar 12, 3:17 pm, Aaron Thomas <[email protected]> wrote:
> > .... But when it comes to climbing, I cannot
> > help but think that the extra 6+ lbs I'm hauling on my 23-ish lb. bike
> > (compared to their 16 -17lb bikes) puts me at a distinct disadvantage.
>
> If one discounts the psychology of having a heavier or lighter bike,
> it's all physics!
>
> Go to http://www.analyticcycling.com/ and run some models.  My
> fiddling about comparing two otherwise identical riders except one has
> a 6 lbs (3 kg) heavier bike shows that for a 8% climb for 5km (1320 ft
> total elevation gain), using 200W of power, the difference at the top
> is about 1 minute or 176m.
>
> That seems like a lot until I started playing with the power output of
> the riders.  Keeping the standard rider at 200W, just increasing the
> test rider with the heavier bike to 208W makes the test rider *ahead*
> (not by much, but still ahead nevertheless).  The power increment to
> pull even with extra weight is more at higher outputs, but even at
> 300W for the standard rider, it's still "only" 311W for the test rider
> to remain even with the extra 6-lbs-heavier bike.
>
> Now, given that most of us are not world-class fully-optimized elite
> cyclists, training to increase output by a meagerly 8 watts shouldn't
> be too difficult.  In fact, I would wager that my output vary by at
> least that much between a good and better day on the saddle.



But the difference might tip you over from a nice, comfortable ride into a
"excessively gofast" ride, no? IOW, if part of the reason for your setup is
comfort, then it appears that lighter weight, after a point, can make for
greater comfort -- especially on a bad day, say when your hill also includes
a stiff headwind.

Patrick "light weight: it's all about comfort!" Moore

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