On Mon, 2009-06-29 at 19:23 -0700, James Warren wrote: > > Steve, > I don't understand. My understanding is that the Saluki functionally > still exists in that the AHH in sizes 58 and below is just a Saluki by > a new name.
The Hilsen is a 700C bike except in small sizes, where it is 650B. In other words, the new Riv position is that 650B is just a way of working around the difficulty in fitting wide tires into little frames. It goes a bit further than that as well. The target tire for the Hilsen is the slightly-larger-than-32mm Jack Brown. IMHO where 650B really comes into its own is with the 38-42mm tires. I ride 32mm tires on my Velo Orange. I'm no stranger to 32mm tires. I'll take a 32mm onto a dirt road if I'm forced to, but I'm not going to go seeking out dirt roads for the sheer joy of it with a tire that narrow and (for me) that skittish and insecure. I'll go out of my way to ride my Saluki and my Kogswell on dirt roads. > > The only thing I see not being made now that was made before are the > following two things: > > 1) Sidepull Salukis (whether they are called Salukis or AHH's) with > 650B wheels in the 60 and 62 cm frame sizes, and And since 60cm is my size, you can see why I might feel the way I do. > 2) Salukis with cantilever brake option I'm good with both canti's and centerpulls. > > Is the loss of either or both of these things what you are objecting to? > > Because it looks to me that if your frame size is from 47 to 58, the > AHH offered is identical to what used to be the sidepull Saluki, and > that bike is very similar to the Bleriot (excluding sizes 59 and 61). > Where you stand depends on where you sit. And for me, that happens to be in the 59-60cm range. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
