Tim,
Thanks for the great idea of converting to 650.  I had pondered it, but I 
had figured the bb would be too low.  Glad to know it works, and I think I 
will go with 650 wheels as well.  A few questions if you don't mind: 
Do you use a 170 crank length?
Which brakes do you use with the 650 wheelset?
Do the 650 x 38b max out clearance under fenders?
Your bike is beautiful!  
Thanks again,
Erl

On Monday, October 27, 2014 10:48:59 PM UTC-4, Tim Gavin wrote:
>
> I love that colorway; some of the loveliest Rivs have a dark head tube.
>
> My Road Standard is a '97 Waterford build, and the lugs look identical to 
> yours.  Mine has the exact same clearances: 700 x 28c with about 1 mm to 
> spare under the brake bridge.  
>
>
>
> I converted my Road Standard to 650 x 38b and am much happier with the 
> ride and handling on GB Lierres.  I have to be careful about the resultant 
> extra-low BB, but the bike feels more Rivish to me on the wider tires.  But 
> then I'm 220#, so I appreciate bigger tires on just about any bike.  :)
>
> ATMO, the Road Standard 753 tubeset feels pretty stiff for a skinny tire 
> bike.  Like a stout enough to tour on (which I do), but it can't fit a 700c 
> touring tire.  I prefer a more compliant frame if I'm limited to high 
> pressure tires.  
>
> The GB Cerf is a great tire for a skinny-only bike; I use them on my 
> gofast (Italian steel Giordana). The Giordana frame is pretty flexy; its 
> tubing is some French heat-treated Excelle NiChrom in a crazy-thin 
> profile.  Under my bulk, that flex gives it a great ride.  It planes on 
> skinny tires, where the Riv gets closest to that feel with the added plush 
> of the Lierres.  That said, the Riv frame will still be strong long after 
> I've broken that Giordana frame, probably.
>
> The first generation Road Standard and All-Rounder have those gorgeous 
> Nervex-like lugs, and are probably the least-expensive frames you'll find 
> with "Rivendell" on the down tube.
>
> You made a great find on a beautiful bike!
>
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Tony DeFilippo <vpi...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> That sounds cool Erl!  Funny to think of a Riv with clearances that 
>> small, as the narrow tires go in sure those GB tires are excellent.
>>
>
>

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