Craig Calfee is one of the few guys I'd trust to sell me a crabon fiber
bike appropriate for my weight and intended usage.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Brewster Fong <bfd...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 11:13:15 AM UTC-8, Bill Lindsay wrote:
>>
>> I own a 56cm Rivendell with a second top tube.  Brewster Fong thinks my
>> bicycle is stupid and worthy of ridicule.  I think my bicycle is beautiful
>> and I love riding it.
>>
>> My Bomba
>> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/45758191@N04/8474652710/in/set-72157632769612752>
>>
>> Brewster Fong thinks it is wrong for Grant to insult carbon fiber, but he
>> doesn't mind insulting my bike.  I get it!  Brewster Fong says "whatever
>> gets you riding!", but obviously doesn't really mean it.  I really mean
>> it.  If you love your bike,
>>
>
> You're right Bill. I should have clarified, I wasn't talking about the
> looks of double top tubes, but the *need* for it, especially on a 56cm
> bike?  Maybe you can tell us how wonderful it rides compared to a single
> top tube. Personally, I never ridden a bike with two tts, but think it
> would stiffen the bike. Wrong?  Hey, since my foot is in my mouth, maybe
> the double tt helps the bike "plane!"  Further, the double tt is not
> limited to Rivendell, there's a guy at my work who rides a Sycip with 2 tt:
>
> http://sycip.com/project/cruiser-town-bikes/
>
> Btw, I have a 18 year old carbon bike that many people find ugly! It's a
> Calfee with the gussets (webbing). There are many, many people out there
> who think its one of the ugliest bikes made. I agree, its not the
> prettiest, but man, it is so comfortable to ride!  Oh yeah, and very
> durable too!
>
> Nevertheless, I still think its wrong for Grant to insult carbon. Hey, he
> makes a good product and should be proclaiming the virtues about steel and
> his bikes. After all, doesn't he have like a 3 year wait list for one of
> his customs?
>
> So go enjoy your bike! Since it doesn't rain here any more, that means
> more time to ride! Good Luck!
>
>
>
>> that's awesome!
>>
>> Bill Lindsay
>> El Cerrito, CA
>>
>> On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:46:43 AM UTC-8, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, February 25, 2015 at 3:15:16 PM UTC-8, Steve Palincsar
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 02/25/2015 05:39 PM, Brewster Fong wrote:
>>>> > Now, this is nothing but anedotal and just one example, but for my
>>>> > buddy, the right tool got him going! I don't care what it was made
>>>> out
>>>> > of, but the supposedly stiff, uncomfortable aluminum frame road bike
>>>> > got him hooked and we love it!
>>>>
>>>> Some of those Alu Specialized road bikes have riding positions very
>>>> similar to what GP was advocating back in 2002.  I know quite a few
>>>> people who have them and like them a lot.  I think the Zerts inserts
>>>> are
>>>> pure placebo and the bikes would be better off with something wider
>>>> than
>>>> a 25mm tire, but for something you can just walk into a LBS and get for
>>>> (by modern standards) relatively cheap money, there are lots worse
>>>> bikes
>>>> people could buy.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, it is not just Specialized, but all the biggies - Trek, C'dale and
>>> Giant to name a few - now offer more "upright" riding position for all
>>> their bikes.  For example, Trek sells its carbon bikes with a H1 fit.
>>> That's the standard racing fit with low, low bars and super high saddles.
>>> BUT, they also sell the same frames/bikes with a H2 fit that has higher
>>> bars and a more upright riding position. In fact, this is how the
>>> new 10.25lb Trek Emondo, or whatever it is called,  is being offered. Then
>>> again, if you're really going to spend $15k for a bike, it better be
>>> available in any position that you want!
>>>
>>> I believe the credit for this positioning goes to Grant and his famous
>>> "raise dat stem" article that came out in the late 90s?!  Now, if we can
>>> only do something about G's fetish with double top tubes (on a 56cm frame!)
>>> and carbon bashing, we might have something....Good Luck!
>>>
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