On 02/26/2015 03:10 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Brewster

My Bombadil is quite stiff. Bikes that "plane" are really flexible. My Bombadil does not plane. My Rawland Stag with 7/4/7 standard diameter top tube and downtube does plane. My Bombadil is very stout. I use it for camping and trail riding. At times, I am carrying most of the gear for a family of four. When my bike weighs over 90lbs, the extra few ounces of the second top tube does not bother me.

When your bike weighs 90 pounds, a 2nd top tube may actually be doing you some good! I'm happy to have a diagonal tube on a tandem, too. Jan notwithstanding, I had a French tandem once with twin external laterals. They were decorative and made a nice place to cradle a water bottle, but provided no lateral stiffness whatsoever.


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