>If you want a more expansive style of touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough.
My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on the rack. Those stupid little >inserts fall out or break, and then the pannier is noisy in off-road touring. -- Dear Anne, A bikepacking seatbag, a bikepacking frame bag, and a bikepacking front bag just squeaks into (my) ultralight long-distance bikepacking range, but I considered a 20lb dry weight heavy back when I fastpacked. I generally use a handlebar bag + front panniers on roads, and I've got plenty for expansive living in the summertime. I can even just squeak into a Nelson Longflap + my 25N+1 bag (my nylon handlebar bag that's 1" taller than a Berthoud GB25) in the summer, but don't ask me to drive the great divide trail on that setup--not enough water storage for the southern portions, and I really want a bug-proof shelter for the northern tier. Way too much for a 1200K, though (I fit into a GB 25 pretty handily for that distance on roads). A gumboots engineer's solution for the rattly ortlieb panniers: tape. Yep, pad out the rack to the I.D. of the ortlieb mounting hooks. I like flue tape, as it is mostly aluminum, and won't creep much due to load, though I'm interested in others' solutions here. Best, Will William M. deRosset Fort Collins, CO On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 7:59:30 PM UTC-6, Anne Paulson wrote: > > > 1. I can carry more in 2 panniers than in the largest saddlebag (well, > I've > > not used the Sackville Large, but don't tell me it carries more than 2 > > Ortlieb Packers or Rollers); after all, if I'm gonna use a rack, then I > > might as well get max vol. > > So funny-- I actually made this very test a couple of hours ago. I'm > getting ready to do the Great Divide, figuring out what I'll bring and > how I'll carry it. I gave up on my homemade saddlebag with the R10 > rack, after realizing that it just won't carry enough. So I put an Old > Man Mountain rack on the bike, and tried putting what I need to bring > in my two Ortlieb rear panniers, and finding it fit easily. Great. So > then I thought, well maybe the Large Saddlesack would be better. So I > took the stuff (tent, water filter, jacket, sweater, MUSA pants, two > bike shorts, towel & soap, one baggy shorts, food bag, and there might > be some more stuff) and tried to put it in the Large Saddlesack, and > it didn't fit. So there you have it. Ortlieb panniers hold more. > > Now, as to why I'd uses the Large Saddlesack-- it's easier to load and > unload. I love my Large Saddlesack on my around-town bike. It's easier > to stuff things in, and then find them again when I need them. > > People who use the Revelate-style bikepacking seat bags love them > because there is no rack to break, and no panniers to be noisy. The > whole thing is light and simple. All of which is true, but those seat > bags don't hold very much. If you want a more expansive style of > touring, the bikepacking seatbag isn't big enough. > > My next problem is how to stop the Ortliebs from being so rattly on > the rack. Those stupid little inserts fall out or break, and then the > pannier is noisy in off-road touring. > > -- > -- Anne Paulson > > It isn't a contest. Enjoy the ride. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
