regarding the narrow question of bullmoose vs noodle, when I bought
AHH, Keven advised same thing.  More hand positions with noodle.  So I
got noodle.  i still wanted to try moustache, so i purchased pair 2nd
hand from another list member.  This is true, with noodle there are
more hand positions.  about 5 total.  i will probably stick with the
moustache for a while longer just to be sure, but i believe i will end
up switching back to the noodle.

todd olsen

On Nov 7, 9:26 pm, Orthie251 <orthie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to the list, but I've been following it daily for the past
> couple of weeks and have to say I've learned a lot about Rivendell and
> steel bikes in such a short time. I am new to the whole Rivendell
> philosophy, but discovering it has saved my cycling. For the past 7
> years, since moving to the San Francisco Bay Area from Venezuela and
> taking up road riding in addition to mountain biking, I've never been
> able to ride without pain. To shorten an otherwise long and familiar
> story, in the beginning of the summer, tired of paying for fits and
> changing bike frames with no real results, I discovered the Rivendell
> website and poured all over it. It was radically different to anything
> and everything I had read over the years, and when I discovered they
> were located less than an hour from my house, I decided to go and
> check them out, to see what they and their bikes were all about.
>
> I drove to Walnut Creek, spent about an hour or a bit more there
> talking primarily to Mark, tested the A. Homer Hilsen, the Sam
> Hillborne and the Atlantis, and drove back with an AHH frame (61cm
> Waterford) after waiting for Mark to install the headset, as well as
> some parts like 2 stems to fine tune the fit (100 & 90cm), the Noodle
> bars (48cm), Cane Creek brake levers, Nitto S-83 seatpost and a front
> Mark's rack. Rick adjusted my rear road Chris King hub from road to
> mountain spacing and dished it.
>
> I have built the AHH with the Sram Rival 10 speed components I had on
> my Gunnar CrossHairs but went with the Sram 10 speed bar end shifters
> to preserve the character of the bike and to try them out as I'd never
> used them before. I also installed a Tubus Cosmo rear rack, Brooks
> brown saddle and bar tape, Honjo hammered fenders (40mm) with Schwalbe
> Marathon Supreme 35 tires and a few other details.
>
> After riding the AHH for the past several weeks, I cannot begin to say
> that not only have I been enjoying it extremely and have had no pain,
> now I blame Rivendell for making it impossible for me to ride all my
> other bikes! I've already sold the Gunnar CrossHairs (58) and the
> Cannondale F600 (medium), and I'm seriously considering selling my
> recently put together Specialized Roubaix SL2 with Sram Red
> components. It pains me to get rid of all of them, but after riding
> the AHH, getting back on these bikes only serves to highlight how bad
> the fit was.
>
> Inevitably, I take another drive to Walnut Creek to discuss this
> situation and what I'm feeling with Mark, and Keven joins in. After
> translating my wishes into cycling lingo, I test ride an Atlantis (60)
> and a Bombadil (60) after re-checking my PBH with Mark, and place an
> order for a new Bombadil frame. You see, I have this dream of touring
> and camping with my bike, but I don't really know how or if I'll ever
> make it happen. I also have a 2009 Titus FTM Exo-grid titanium, 140mm
> trailbike, but am beginning to consider going mountain biking with a
> steel rigid bike as well. I'm not planning to sell that one just yet,
> I think all that travel still has a purpose in my life, but if I want
> to build up the Bombadil with all the parts I want, selling the
> Roubaix would certainly cover that and more... Do I really need a 16.5
> lbs high end carbon bike when I have so much fun riding the 27 lbs
> (fully racked) AHH on the road? Who cares if I'm a tad slower when I'm
> having so much fun, even on the climbs? The Roubaix SL2 is a very nice
> bike, but I can't get the handlebars high enough!
>
> BTW, I'm turning 50 in January and am also overweight, but so far have
> lost 23 lbs this year. Still another 60 - 80 to go, and I can't think
> of any better way than to continue to watch what I eat and commute
> every day on my AHH...
>
> Keven and Mark both agreed that I should get the Bombadil frame
> painted and not raw with the powder coat, as the wet paint will last
> longer and protect the frame better. I like the raw look when it's
> new, but have had bad experiences with powder coated paint coming off
> very easily from the Gunnar, so I agreed.
>
> So many color choices... green and gold, blue and gold, Keven showed
> me two painted Bombadil frames they have (not in my size) in silver,
> and they look very nice. When I said I loved white bikes (my Gunnar
> was all white), he showed me the 48 Bombadil frame they have in Cream
> with Gold, and I just melted. I said that is the color combination I
> want. We also discussed getting the Bullmoose bars painted to match,
> but even though they felt very comfortable for the short test ride
> there, I'm not sure how I'd like them for longer rides. Mark says he
> prefers the multiple hand positions from the drop bars.
>
> I have until Wednesday morning to finalize my decision as Keven will
> not be in until then, so here are my questions to the group:
> - Is the AHH a good replacement for the Specialized Roubaix for me,
> not a racer, not a club rider, just interested in metric centuries,
> centuries and eventually as I loose weight and gain fitness, longer
> rides?
> - I am really into commuting, which the AHH is great for, and just
> discovered what the term S240 means. I really want to explore that
> dimension of cycling, but with a family (wife doesn't cycle) and work,
> I just don't know how I'll make that happen, so the Bombadil is the
> expression of that dream, but is it right for me or would a Roadeo be
> more indicated for riding those centuries and if I ever manage to go
> camping/touring with my bike, the AHH would fill that need?
> - If I go with the Bombadil, should I spend the extra money on the
> Bullmoose bar or should I save it and go with a Noodle bar or perhaps
> a moustache bar?
>
> Decisions... decisions...
>
> My apologies for the long rant... :-) You can check out some pictures
> of my AHH athttp://tinyurl.com/yjptb5q
>
> René Sterental (Orthie251)
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