Re: [RBW] Re: Joe Appaloosa geometry

[James Warren]

These are exactly my questions as well. I'm pretty set on what I have. Hunq (Bosco with 14 cm Ritchey stem, big dirt tires), Hillborne (classic Albatross, Barlow Pass fasties), and Atlantis (classic Albatross, 50 mm tires and fenders) trade off almost all of the duties on my favorite riding. (The drop bar bikes are seeing less time as well as the dedicated mountain bike.) I don't see the Appaloosa adding much beyond what these three amazing bikes already offer, but I am curious enough to comment about the longer chainstays:

While I've had many extended periods of fun on the Atlantis in touring mode with drop bars and its 45.5 cm chainstays, I don't think I would consider putting drop bars on a bike with 53.5 mm chainstays like the Joe Appaloosa. I buy the argument that the super long chainstay design is best suited to bikes with upright bars like the Bosco and Albatross, because these bars shift the center of mass (of the rider/bike system) rearward. This makes me think of it as a bike that is different from the Atlantis and Hillborne in a fairly substantial way. I'd go back to drop bars on those, but not on a Joe Appaloosa. (The numbers above refer to my Atantis, which was made before they lengthened the chainstays a couple years ago. They used to be 45.5 cm in my size, and now they are 47 cm.)

Superficial Sidenote: I love the Hillborne blue, but I pictured the Joe Appaloosa as a dark red frame. For some reason, that's the color it's supposed to be in my mind. I don't know why.

-Jim W.

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From: Shoji Takahashi

 

Having a Hunqapillar and AHH in the stable, it seems like Appaloosa might be too much overlap. The Cheviot is distinctly different as a mixte, and bonus has the long stays. But the presale price, fork crown, head badge, choco-moose bars... that's a tough bike to love (or was that another bike?) :)

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