The drop being 77 mm as opposed to  80 mm is puzzling to me.

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> On Oct 29, 2015, at 5:24 PM, iamkeith <keithhar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Comparing it to the Hunqapillar and Atlantis,  the most interesting thing 
> about the Appaloosa geometry to me is that it appears to be intended for use 
> with a smaller maximum tire size.  Perhaps this suggests that it is slated to 
> be even more of a touring-specific bike, than the jack-of-many trades bike 
> that the other two are?  The Hunqapillar says 60mm (2.4") max, while the 
> Atlantis and Appaloosa both say 55mm (2") max.  We know, of course that 
> people successfully run 2.5" even on the Atlantis - but it shares the same, 
> huge, 80mm bottom bracket drop that the Hunqapillar has (or vice versa).    
> The drop on the Appaloosa, on the other hand, is 2 to 3 cm less, so it sits  
> higher. 
> 
> So even if you could squeeze a bigger-than-rated tire in there, it's going to 
> raise the center of gravity and the top tube as well.  As a mountain bike, 
> this might actually be better, but the sizing would effectively run a little 
> larger.  As a touring bike, a taller tire would seem to reduce stability - 
> but maybe the longer chainstays compensate? 
> 
> Either way, it seems to be a bit of a departure from existing Rivendell 
> philosophy, where even the recent Clem has the same drop as the Atlantis and 
> Hunqapillar.  Kind of curious too, given the fact that  most of us tend to 
> try to squeeze in the biggest tire we can fit, and that fatter tires are 
> becoming available regularly.
> 
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