I think Shoji's Hunqapillar and the Joe Appaloosa have a lot of overlap. The Appaloosa would be awesome for me because I sold my Bombadil to finance a Mountain Bike, and because I don't own a Hunqapillar.
Comparing the Cheviut to the Appaloosa, I slightly prefer cantilever/V-brakes for huge tires. Comparing my 58 Atlantis to the Appaloosa, one of the only tiny gripes I have with my Atlantis is TCO (toe-clip-overlap). Grant never used to use "front center" measurements in his geo-charts, but with swept back bars and long stays, you can stretch the top tube way out and get a longer front center, and eliminate TCO. Some will then hate that they can't run drop bars on these bikes, because the top tube is too long. I'm going to measure the front center on my Atlantis, and compare it to the 627.4mm of a 58 Appaloosa. No TCO would be a draw. Low-trail bikes eliminate TCO with 650B wheels and/or a ton of fork rake. On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 12:54:29 PM UTC-7, Shoji Takahashi wrote: > > Pics of the Appaloosa on the Blug are terrific. I'm looking forward to the > pics of the new fork crown built up. (BTW-- looks like the "fix" to the > fork crown was to eliminate the windows facing the midline. see > http://rivbike.tumblr.com/post/123735570644/more-on-the-crown-in-the-post-below-this-ungrant > ) > > Question: > What are group members' thoughts on how Appaloosa compares to Cheviot, the > first mainstream available long-chainstay Riv? > > Having a Hunqapillar and AHH in the stable, it seems like Appaloosa might > be too much overlap. The Cheviot is distinctly different as a mixte, and > bonus has the long stays. But the presale price, fork crown, head badge, > choco-moose bars... that's a tough bike to love (or was that another bike?) > :) > > Thanks for your opinions, > shoji > > > > On Thursday, October 29, 2015 at 10:13:56 AM UTC-4, Jeffrey Marco wrote: >> >> Really liking the look of this bike, It's got me considering selling my >> Atlantis, but I certainly don't want the stock build. I would likely >> transfer all the parts from my Atlantis to a Japaloosa. The bar looks like >> it would be stiff and comfortable but it's ugly as hell... >> >> >> Hmmm... decisions, decisions >> >> "but it seems the joe could be set up as a drop bar fast tourer." >> did you notice the length of the top tube? this frame has upright, swept >> back bars written all over it. my 2 cents. >> >> On Monday, October 12, 2015 at 12:46:30 PM UTC-4, Matt R wrote: >>> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> Just wondering if anyone has insider knowledge about the Joe Appaloosa >>> geometry? The last Riv email described it as a cross between a Hunq and >>> Atlantis, which sounds like my dream bike, but the recent Web Special >>> proto-Appaloosas appeared to be geometrically identical to Sam H, the only >>> obvious differences being larger tire clearances and canti posts. If it's >>> truly somewhere between Hunq and Atlantis, I'm gonna start saving my >>> pennies now. Any insights would be greatly appreciated, sounds like it will >>> be a wonderful bike! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Matt in Tucson >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rbw-owners-bunch. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
