I did just see that the Cetma half rack will take panniers. Style just 
isn't for me.
David
Chicago

On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 1:55:02 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>
> Yes, I had to send out my fork and front fender when I had my custom SS 
> porteur rack made years ago.  And if you anticipate changing bikes, the P&S 
> can adapt to the new one as well.  And if you find a porteur rack isn't for 
> you, a P&S will retain more of its value than a custom rack, although a 
> custom for a relatively common bike would probably also be pretty easy to 
> sell...
>
> Doug
>
> P.S.  Not that it matters in this instance, but the CETMA Half Rack is 
> also pannier compatible...
>
> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:37 PM, David Banzer <daba...@gmail.com 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I considered going custom, pricepoint would've been similar for a porteur 
>> rack with rails for panniers. The downside would be I'd need to send the 
>> builder my fork, then I'd be out my daily rider for a while. The P&S rack's 
>> ability to fit other bikes is a plus for me. If I ever get an itch to set 
>> up my Clem differently, the rack will easily fit a couple other bikes I 
>> have. If I'd gone custom, the rack most likely wouldn't fit another bike.
>> The goal was to have a porteur rack platform with front panniers. Price 
>> wise, Nitto 32f & Hub Area Rack would be more expensive and I wouldn't have 
>> the large platform.
>> David
>> Chicago
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 12:41:18 PM UTC-6, Doug Van Cleve wrote:
>>>
>>> Late to the party, but I will share a couple thoughts.  By all accounts 
>>> the P&S rack is nice, but it is also as expensive as a custom porteur rack 
>>> and the more adaptable a rack is, generally the more flexible and heavier 
>>> it will be.  Depending on your goal and price point, there are a couple 
>>> CETMA racks that are similar function and cheaper, if more crude (
>>> http://cetmacargo.com/pages/cetma-racks-info 
>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fcetmacargo.com%2Fpages%2Fcetma-racks-info&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGterEl6jWsHzbdiU1V0E8wJeeiZQ>),
>>>  
>>> and Wald has a giant rack-sket now (
>>> http://www.waldsports.com/index.cfm/store/front-baskets/257-ewalde28099s-multi-fit-front-rack/)
>>>  
>>> that is way cheaper than anything similar.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 9:03 AM, David Banzer <daba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I just needed one solid endorsement. Sent in my payment just now. For 
>>>> those interested, current queue time is 6-8 weeks.
>>>> David
>>>> Chicago
>>>>
>>>> On Wednesday, March 9, 2016 at 9:55:07 AM UTC-6, Pudge wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a P&S rack on my Bombadil. Extremely versatile -- I've had a 
>>>>> large Wald basket on it, and I've also ridden the bike with small 
>>>>> Berthoud 
>>>>> panniers on it (paired with medium Berthoud panniers on the rear, with 
>>>>> tent, sleeping bag and pad spread over the rack platforms. Rode well in 
>>>>> all 
>>>>> configurations. Pics of various iterations are on my Flickr stream. 
>>>>>
>>>>> You didn't ask this question specifically, but I'll answer it anyway: 
>>>>> the P&S rack is beautifully made and well thought out. It has light 
>>>>> mounts, 
>>>>> and provides for internal routing of wiring. Very solid and flexible 
>>>>> mounting system. I love it. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 9, 2016, at 10:17 AM, David Banzer <daba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm just about ready to pull the trigger on a Pass & Stow rack for my 
>>>>> Clem. While Clem isn't the typical bike for a big front load, I've had 
>>>>> pretty good success with a Wald basket on a Soma rack. That rack needs to 
>>>>> go back on another back. 
>>>>> What I'd really like is front panniers, with the option of a light, 
>>>>> bulky items on top, and be able to carry the occasional takeout order 
>>>>> easily.
>>>>> I was thinking Nitto 32f front rack with the Hub Area rack, and I'd 
>>>>> need to add a basket on top.
>>>>> Seems like the Pass & Stow rack fits my needs better. Just curious 
>>>>> about folks using that rack with front panniers.
>>>>> David
>>>>> Chicago
>>>>>
>>>>>
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