Garth,

I didn't like the pants at first. A bit baggy, didn't like the look. I 
didn't mind the reflectors, and my generation has zippers instead of velcro.
Over time, I have come to appreciate them for super casual uses: biking and 
camping, mostly. And for that they are great. Super comfy and don't take up 
much space so I might throw them on for a road trip as I did over 
Thanksgiving. 

Edwin

On Monday, December 5, 2016 at 7:16:26 AM UTC-6, Garth wrote:
>
>   The pants seemed a bit odd to me.  For one, for a company  that promotes 
> wearing "normal" clothes the pants with the reflectors and large velcro 
> straps reminded me of a fireman's pant,  not a "normal" looking pant at 
> all.  For comparison, he Compass knicker looks like a  normal knicker 
> anyone would wear any place. 
>
>    The cut of them could be improved too, a good pair of pants is as well 
> thought out as a say a good frame is.  Can you please everyone ?  Yes, 
> absolutely, and the idea that you cannot is nonsensical.
>

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