Hey, Grant: I've owned enough of Rivendell clothing to confidently assert
that, in my own very personal experience, the pluses far outweigh the
minuses.

Here's an idea (puhleeze?): bring back some of the Wooly Warm stuff. I have
that Wooly Warm ragg-type over-jersey (4-or-so button plaquet, rear
buttoned pockets, high faux turtleneck riding "sweater." What a wonderful
garment! Even here in high desert ABQ, NM, winter humidity levels reach to
the 60s, but at 40*F on a winter morning, with 55% humidity, a ls merino
jersey under that WW over-jersey is just the ticket. *And,* what's even
better, when riding home 3 hours later, and the temps soar to 60*, you can
unbutton the plaquet and be perfectly comfortable..

Another instance: I bought a LS Rivendell wool jersey, I think iteration 2
-- half-zip plaquet, not the side button style -- second hand, only it was
Large, and in this particular garment, I need a Medium. I washed it Hot and
dried it Hotter, and the damned thing didn't shrink a mm. No worries, I
gave it to my brother who is 4" taller and 40 lb heavier, and this after
using it myself for a year or 2.

I coveted one of those WW vests, but never had the cash when they were
available.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Grant Petersen <grant6...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Clothing companies with staff designers can please more people than
> bicycle companies trying their hand at clothing, that's for sure. Making
> one style and fit of anything and trying to fit the O's and I's, the short
> and tall, the ones who like a tailored fit and the ones who don't, and
> that's even before style and colors join in--- is more challenging than it
> may seem. Reality is harder than theory. I'm off of this topic--back to
> bikes, point made I hope.
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 9:50 AM, Patrick Moore <bertin...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Which pants are you referring to? MUSA?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 6:16 AM, Garth <garth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   The pants seemed a bit odd to me.  For one, for a company  that
>>> promotes wearing "normal" clothes the pants with the reflectors and large
>>> velcro straps reminded me of a fireman's pant,  not a "normal" looking pant
>>> at all.  For comparison, he Compass knicker looks like a  normal knicker
>>> anyone would wear any place.
>>>
>>>    The cut of them could be improved too, a good pair of pants is as
>>> well thought out as a say a good frame is.  Can you please everyone ?  Yes,
>>> absolutely, and the idea that you cannot is nonsensical.
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