Too long was my assessment of tge Clementines chainstays; you may or may not 
agree. The bike rides comfortably enough, it's great if I'm in no particular 
hurry. But, it doesn't "wheelie" as some people call it. I don't need to pop 
wheelies, but being able to lift the front wheel over obstacles is a constant 
chore. Frequent pedal strike & ghost shifting when sprinting or climbing out of 
the saddle. All things that are significantly reduced by shorter stays. None of 
these issues I bring up after jumping on for a brief ride, I continue ride & 
enjoy the bike, I think it's quite pretty and I always gets tons of 
looks/compliments when I ride it. I accept it's quirks in the context and 
personality of the bike and what I use it for, but I don't think these traits 
would be endearing in an Atlantis. Though I assume most of these issues would 
be minimized on a stiffer Atlantis with a smaller front center & I  hope 
Rivendell sells a bazillion of'em.  

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