Look at the Front-Center dimension on the 58 cm Sam – clearly a typo. Also, 
the maximum tire size on Sam being 700x46, whereas on Homer 700x56 has got 
to be wrong... Good thing folks are flagging this – hopefully Riv can do a 
correction? 

Now, for the functional differences between Homer, Sam, and Atlantis – 
increasing tire size and load capacity?.. 

- Max "when did I ever start paying attention to details?" in A2


On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 8:15:01 AM UTC-4, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>
> I do think there are are typos and/or oddities in the geometry charts, 
> though, who knows, maybe with certain center pull brakes 55mm is possible. 
>  I think you are certainly right about the Tektro sidepulls though.  I get 
> the impression that more goes into the recommended PBH/sizing chart than 
> the actual geometry chart numbers.  I have not been mislead when using 
> Riv's PBH recommendations but going deeper into the geometry numbers is not 
> always the fun or even useful thing one imagines.
>
> For reference, and maybe it is still there in the current mix, but here is 
> the geometry chart from 2017:
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>
> As far as really previous Sam geometries go, I cannot find the chart now 
> but I believe top tubes were relatively longer in the v1's, that to better 
> work with swept/upright bars.
>
> Bob
>
>  
>
> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:21:03 PM UTC-5, Adam in Indiana wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else notice that the new Homer has more tire clearance than a 
>> canti Sam?  Or do you think that's a typo?  I don't recall Tektro 559's 
>> clearing a 55mm...
>>
>> Also, anyone remember what the chainstay length on the previous Sam 
>> generation was?
>>
>

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