Max asked:  "Now, for the functional differences between Homer, Sam, and 
Atlantis – increasing tire size and load capacity?.. "

Homer and Sam are functionally equivalent.  There's no great justification 
for any normal person to have a Homer and a Sam, unless you were going to 
execute two different builds, like drop bars on one and swept-back on the 
other.  

Atlantis is definitely more of a knockabout chassis.  I could definitely 
see somebody setting up a Sam or a Homer as a sporty bike, plus an Atlantis 
as a touring/loadcarrier.  

Bill Lindsay
El Cerrito, CA

On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 10:28:12 AM UTC-7, Max S wrote:
>
> Look at the Front-Center dimension on the 58 cm Sam – clearly a typo. 
> Also, the maximum tire size on Sam being 700x46, whereas on Homer 700x56 
> has got to be wrong... Good thing folks are flagging this – hopefully Riv 
> can do a correction? 
>
> Now, for the functional differences between Homer, Sam, and Atlantis – 
> increasing tire size and load capacity?.. 
>
> - Max "when did I ever start paying attention to details?" in A2
>
>
> On Sunday, May 27, 2018 at 8:15:01 AM UTC-4, Bob Lovejoy wrote:
>>
>> I do think there are are typos and/or oddities in the geometry charts, 
>> though, who knows, maybe with certain center pull brakes 55mm is possible. 
>>  I think you are certainly right about the Tektro sidepulls though.  I get 
>> the impression that more goes into the recommended PBH/sizing chart than 
>> the actual geometry chart numbers.  I have not been mislead when using 
>> Riv's PBH recommendations but going deeper into the geometry numbers is not 
>> always the fun or even useful thing one imagines.
>>
>> For reference, and maybe it is still there in the current mix, but here 
>> is the geometry chart from 2017:
>>
>> https://web.archive.org/web/20170602082329/https://www.rivbike.com/pages/geometry
>>
>> As far as really previous Sam geometries go, I cannot find the chart now 
>> but I believe top tubes were relatively longer in the v1's, that to better 
>> work with swept/upright bars.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>  
>>
>> On Saturday, May 26, 2018 at 11:21:03 PM UTC-5, Adam in Indiana wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone else notice that the new Homer has more tire clearance than a 
>>> canti Sam?  Or do you think that's a typo?  I don't recall Tektro 559's 
>>> clearing a 55mm...
>>>
>>> Also, anyone remember what the chainstay length on the previous Sam 
>>> generation was?
>>>
>>

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