I guess I should have said "this kinda looks like..." Thinking is always 
clearer once you see your words in print.
-- 
Carl

On June 8, 2020 2:24:49 PM PDT, Pancake <abe.gard...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Grant's earlier description was: it's like a Sam Hillborne but fits
>wider 
>tires, has at least a swooping tube like the Suzie, and takes v-brakes.
>
>Sounds similar to this photo. 
>I'd like to see it with the fattest tires, some Losco bars, and swoopy
>seat 
>stays like the Clem. It'd be extra swoopy for form (matching or flowing
>
>from the top tube swoopiness) and function (getting that leg over
>doesn't 
>get easier with time). A little less toe overlap than my 56cm double
>top 
>tube Sam plus v-brakes and classy swoops ... that'll be sweet! Great
>look 
>at the progress on this prototype, like the dirt drop stem for sure. 
>
>Abe
>
>On Monday, June 8, 2020 at 10:44:36 AM UTC-7, tuolumne bikes wrote:
>>
>> Maybe another way to say it: this is a modern Rivendell redesign of
>the 
>> All-Rounder with long stays and swoop tube.
>
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